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Russian cosmonaut sets record for most time in space – more than 878 days (reuters.com)
96 points by DaveFlater 11 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 56 comments



There seems to be some confusion in the comments. The cosmonaut didn't spend 878 days in space continuously but rather over 5 separate missions starting from 2008.

And he will reach 1110 days once he returns from the current mission in September.


Important note:

878 days in total, across all his expeditions. Not continuous.

The longest continuous stay of 473 days was by Valeri Polyakov on board the Mir station in 1994-95.


I am pretty sure this guy came to my french island in 1998 or 1999 when I was last year of high school (if it was not him, it was another cosmonaut who had done a very long stay, but I am pretty sure it was him). He came to visit my high school to give a talk. A close classmate, who was half Russian and could speak well the language, translated for us. Kind of cool :D


That first leg day is gonna be a real burner.


I had previously read that there was a point of no return for walking atrophy, somewhere before the two-year mark. Hope the medicine has improved, for this astrionaut's sake.


I'm sure that international space programs have figured out ways to mitigate atrophy by now.


They have not. The astronauts have to exercise for hours per day (2.5 last I checked) in specially designed systems, but that doesn't even begin to compare to what we experience just existing under 1g. So they do experience substantial atrophy and are initially unable to even walk without assistance after getting back to Earth.


And if this can’t be overcome, it means any alien visitors of significant physical size after years of space travel would be rendered quivering bodies after landing on earth —that’s probably a good thing :)


More seriously it actually has really interesting implications for Mars and any other sort of low-g colonization. People who are born and live in only such an environment may simply be physically incapable of coming back to Earth in anything like a normal fashion.

Imagine trying to go to a place right now where suddenly you weighed 3x as much. In all probability, you would die without some sort of special assistance - probably of some sort of cardiovascular failure. If you're a 180lb male, it's the equivalent of strapping a 360lb weight suit on yourself, with the relevant difference that lying down wouldn't offer even the slightest of respite from the forces being imposed on your body. It also has interesting implications for sports, which are just going to be awesome in low g. An Earther would have a massive and tremendously unfair advantage against a Martian.

There's going to be some dramatic (and rapid) social, physical, and even evolutionary drift.


The Expanse (both the books and the movies) features some pretty good exploration of both the direct effects and the resulting social effects. In that universe, people who have lived in the Asteroid belt for ~3 generations can't visit earth without significant medical intervention, but their anatomy begins changing (e.g. in the younger generation some people become significantly taller). An Earther might have a significant advantage on Earth, but on Mars or in the Asteroid Belt they are stronger but less adapted in other ways.


Martians could be taller though. So in a basketball game on Mars, the Earthlings would be hopeless.


Trying to arc shots (or even move around the court) in gravity different than that you've experienced your entire life might cause more difficulty than physical differences between players, I'm thinking.


Not an issue if they have a means of propulsion capable of delivering 1g the whole way

Which is necessary to go any meaningful distance in space anyway


True mitigation would be spin-wheel sleeping and standing. Basically a centrifuge with spacesuits at the end, so they sleep/train in simulated gravity. They do not have that on the iss- although the snake-robot crane could do the job.


Sitting at a desk for several years has wrecked me, I can’t imagine what zero g would be like to recover from.


you are supposed to gym between desks


Here is an interesting and relevant context: there is a huge amount of evidence that Roscosmos is taking an active part in the war effort. There is a great source about it from Eric Berger of Ars Technica: https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/06/it-appears-that-roscos...

Take that into account when reading news made from state press-releases like the one in the post.

P.S.: For the full context, the Roscosmos ex-boss also has had his own private military company for a while.


I wish they would go into more detail regarding the health effects. Eyesight, bone density, cancher risks, etc. I think it helps to be older though, slow cell divide and regeneration, slow down even "aggressive cancers"


Do check out this study - NASA lucked out in having twin astronauts, one of whom spent nearly a year on the ISS while his brother stayed on Earth.

https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/twins-study/


> I think it helps to be older though, slow cell divide and regeneration, slow down even "aggressive cancers"

Are you suggesting that older people are less likely to get cancer?

My understanding was that cancer was mostly driven by the immune system's mechanisms for killing rogue cells failing. The assumption is that there's always cells doing things they shouldn't, it's when you fail to stop them it becomes a problem.


Currently reading 'A City On Mars', which takes a deeper dive into the effects of space on our bodies, as well as other caveats of settling beyond Earth(birth, disease, political systems, etc...). It is not comprehensive and that is because data is still very, very sparse for space operations.


Though dated (1964) this research report has some articles that might interest you

https://archive.org/details/parin-ed.-aviation-and-space-med...


Astronauts age slower and grow taller in space.



Due you mean in the Einstein "twin paradox" sense or are they actually aging significantly slower?


According to Wikipedia astronauts that spent about 800 days in space have aged about 20 milliseconds less. But I'm not sure if that's the correct phrasing and usage of word "age".


If you would consider someone who time traveled ten years into the future with magic to not be ten years older, then aged is correct.


What about, "has experienced ..." or "passed through 20 ms fewer"?


like hobbits drinking ent water


They forgot him. It's like The Terminal, but in space.


Can someone clever please do the math and figure out how far ahead in the future he is?


Just a fraction of a second. IIRC relativistic effects of being on the ISS are around 5 milliseconds/year.


It's a fair question, not sure why it's in gray. After all GPS calculations include corrections for relativistic effects.


Relativistic effects do not put you in the future - you still are here and now. You just arrive at "here and now" faster :)


With rent prices they way it is i can't blame him for not coming down


Hope the muscular atrophy isn't too bad when he returns.


I wouldn't return either.


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He could be mobilized in space, it is done by delivering a letter or electronic message. But why?

Anyway, just for some context, previous Russian crew boarded ISS wearing Ukrainian colors.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/mar/19/russian-cosm...


> just for some context, previous Russian crew boarded ISS wearing Ukrainian colors:

Not quite true: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60804949


> This isn't even hyperbole.

Is there even some big scale mobilization going on in Russia right now?

Or is this just the standard dig at Russia, because the topic is related to Russia?


Yeah, it's been big news for a couple of years now? https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-military-conscription-a...


This news is about conscription they do twice a year, regardless of the war.


https://www.rnbo.gov.ua/en/Diialnist/6714.html "Total mobilisation may follow the 2024 presidential elections."


So there isn't any right now? After the partial mobilization of 2022 I don't think they mobilized more. They just rely on massive monetary incentives to get volunteers iirc. Though yeah maybe that won't last


I understand your feelings but I do not think Russian cosmonauts have even slightest chance of being mobilized disregarding of them being in space at the moment. Too valuable. Does not qualify for being cannon fodder


Mobilized as cannon fodder? Doubt.

Forced to make difficult decisions impacting his and his family life, decisions about living under dictatorship going insane, living in a country reorganizing itself for war economy. No doubt.


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His current stay started in September 2023.

878 days is his grand total spent in space.


I guess that’s one way to bring up the Russian invasion topic. “Time has passed, huh”


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> Who cares

Well, you did end up here to tell everyone how much you don't care, so...


Isn't it amazing that Russia and the US work together for the sake of the ISS?

You'd think that would be the first thing they would stop helping each other with, but no, they just carry on as if nothing had happened!

Diplomatic relations are always in place when it comes to the ISS.


A very small nitpick: "cosmonaut" implies a Russian astronaut [1].

Calling someone a "Russian cosmonaut" goes against the DRY principles ;)

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronaut#Cosmonaut


Well actually... There have been non-Russian Soviet bloc cosmonauts.

For example —

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miros%C5%82aw_Hermaszewski

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Klimuk


> goes against the DRY principles ;)

Nitpicking, "DRY" is a principle, so you probably meant to say "goes against DRY ;)"


In Romanian and other languages "cosmonaut" and "astronaut" can be used interchangeably.


Same in Polish. Actually, in my childhood, some of which was still under communism, "cosmonaut" was in use, "astronaut" came in the 90s, with Hollywood movies.


IMO it's marginally useful to specify that he isn't Soviet or from another former Soviet country that uses the term




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