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Sounds like the non-programmers are good at what they are supposed to be good at (solving the actual problem, if perhaps not always in the most elegant manner) while the programmers should be producing a highly maintainable, understandable, testable and reliable code base (and potentially have problems with advanced algorithms that rely on complicated theorems), but they are not. The OP has a case of bad programmers - the techniques listed as bad can be awesome if used with prudence.

A good programmer has a very deep knowledge of the various techniques they can use and the wisdom to actually choose the right ones in a given situation.

The bad programmers learn a few techniques and apply them everywhere, no matter what they're working on, with whom they are working with. Good programmers learn from their mistakes and adapt, bad programmers blame others.

I've worked with my share of bad programmers and they really suck. A good programmer's code is a joy to work with.




Right and I think "scientists" simply are more intelligent than average Joe Coder. Intelligent people produce better software.

It is easy to learn some coding, not so easy to become a scientist.

To becomes a scientist you must write and get your PhD-thesis approved, which must already be about scientific discoveries you have made while doing that thesis. Only people with above average IQ can accomplish something like that, I think.


Being intelligent in one domain doesn’t automatically make you good in any others. Exceptional biologists can be astoundingly bad at maths, and the other way around. Like most skills, being good at writing software requires not only intelligence, but lots of experience too. Maybe smarter people will pick it up faster, but they aren’t intrinsically better.

It’s a bit surprising you’d have to explain such a basic conclusion here.


In my experience getting a PhD doesn't require above average intelligence, it does require a lot of perseverance and a good amount of organisation though.

I honestly think most skilled tradespeople are more intelligent than me and my PhD holding colleagues.


> Right and I think "scientists" simply are more intelligent than average Joe Coder. Intelligent people produce better software.

The vast majority of papers I read on topics I know are complete bullshit. Maybe making a PhD was more elitist before, but now it surely isn't.

If we define "scientist" as anyone who publishes papers, then they have the same problem as software engineering: it's mostly made by juniors.




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