There is something I find rather hard to communicate about the difference between these models on civitai and what I think a competent model should be able to do.
I'd describe them like "a bike with no handlebars" because they are incredibly difficult to steer to where you want.
The model seems to have completely ignored a good 35% of the text input, most egregiously I find the (flat chest:2.0), the parenthesis denoting a strengthening of that specific part of the prompt. The values I see people use with good general models range from 1.05~1.15. 2.0 in comparison is an extremely large value, that ended up _still not working at all_, if you take a look at the actual image.
> the model seems to have completely ignored a good 35% of the text input,
Well, when you blindly cargo cult a prompting style designed to work around issues with SD1.x in SDXL and in the process spam several hundred tokens, mostly slight variants, into the 75-ish-token window (which, yes, the UIs use a merging strategy to try to accommodate), you have that problem.
> most egregiously I find the (flat chest:2.0)
The flat chest is fighting to compensate the also heavily weighted (hands on breasts:1.5) which not only affects hand placement but also the concept of "breasts", and the biases trained into many of the community models with that term mean that having that concept in the prompt and heavily weighted takes a lot to counteract. So, no, I don't think its ignoring that.
I'd describe them like "a bike with no handlebars" because they are incredibly difficult to steer to where you want.
For example if you look at the preview images like this one: https://civitai.com/images/3615715
The model seems to have completely ignored a good 35% of the text input, most egregiously I find the (flat chest:2.0), the parenthesis denoting a strengthening of that specific part of the prompt. The values I see people use with good general models range from 1.05~1.15. 2.0 in comparison is an extremely large value, that ended up _still not working at all_, if you take a look at the actual image.