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This reliably kills Firefox on Linux here.

The whole browser.

After a few seconds, during which the laptop fans are spinnung up, all tabs go into a "This tab just crashed" state.




Sorry for the trouble, we've just pushed bfcm.stripe.dev/lofi live. Should run reliably with very little load on any machine.


No change here. It still kills the browser and all tabs in it.


That sounds like a Firefox bug


Sounds like the browser vendor should fix all the crappy javascript deployed to the web :)


Have the same issue here, with Ryzen 4700U + 16 GB RAM. Are you saying that it is not enough for generic browsing at the end of 2023?


Which OS are you running and which browser? We've optimized for many common browsers/OS combos but have clearly missed yours (nothing to do with your specs).


As a counterpoint, Ryzen 7530U + 16GB here and with Linux+Firefox the page generates a fairly constant 25% CPU load.

So while clearly heavy for what is essentially a few streaming counters, it's not a system killer.


Latest stable Debian 12 with latest stable Firefox 120. Wouldn't really call it an exotic setup...


Runs quite smoothly on my cell phone.


To be fair, this doesn't qualify as generic browsing. It's more like a CGI sequence from a remake of WarGames.


The old version of this was even worse for performance.

Stripe has had an internal dashboard like this, open to anyone on the VPN, for at least 15 years: Started on a hackathon IIRC. One, serious view had a month-long by-the-minute chart, letting people see the growth. A typical first-of-the-month tradition was to try to predict where the total volume was going to end up, and celebrating when the daily processing record was beaten.

But the real problem wasn't that one, but a far more expensive variation that instead of giving you a number, represented the processing volume with little characters that would dance around the screen: The higher the volume, the more characters would come in. The problem was that this was created when Stripe's total volume was quite small, and Stripe was growing exceptionally well. So if you opened the dashboard on black friday (Or even worse, ten years ago, when black friday was on December 1st, and therefore also got many customer's subscription volume), then the number of flying Totoros would just overwhelm anything and everything any laptop would throw at it.

While the totoro-based performance was not up to Stripe standards (we should have gone in and added an extra zero or two to the threshold for every character), letting the entire company see that side of the financials live was a great move. So many startups out there just aren't candid with their employees regarding the economic state of affairs, while early Stripe let everyone see the processing volume, and thus whether growth was accelerating or slowing down.

It's also what is surprising of seeing this visible outside: At the same time that finances were very open internally, Stripe was very secretive of the data for the outside. Every time a major business news outlet made an estimate of the real processing volume, they were hilariously off, and that's because there were very few leaks, even after launching a new round where investors definitely were handed the real numbers. Based on this data alone, I'd expect people with some practice would be able to get a reasonably close estimate of what Stripe processed this year.


>Based on this data alone, I'd expect people with some practice would be able to get a reasonably close estimate of what Stripe processed this year.

Stripe recently started publishing their yearly processing volume in user letters (see, e.g. 2022: https://stripe.com/annual-updates/2022). I assume they will publish the 2023 numbers as well.


It brought my windows laptop to its knees as well, I closed the tab before I got to see any stats. :')


Firefox/Linux/Ryzen 5 here and it runs fine. Does not even spin the fans.


Checking with `nvidia-smi`, that tab's presence uses eight gigs of GPU memory, at least on a 4K screen.


Kills Firefox? My entire laptop, including my cursor and typing into a terminal, dropped to something like 10 fps.

The lofi version posted in reply to this is definitely better, but it's still crazy they managed to use up an entire laptop for their status page. Cool, but crazy.


Doesn't kill Firefox for me, but my machine is beastly. Windows 11, i9 12900K + RTX 3080Ti, seeing 35% overall CPU, Firefox using 1.2% of that, Task Manager indicating 15-20% of the GPU.

Maybe they fixed it, though.

Actually Firefox works a bit better, as the hitbox for the Next/Previous buttons is weirdly offset in Chrome but is spot on in Firefox, kudos.

EDIT: On `/lofi` Firefox is using about 0.1% CPU.


That means nothing.. what type of linux? what kind of customizations you did in your distro? WM? Based on which one? Drivers installed? And I’m not even going with your Firefox setup and what kind of addons you have.. such statement is expected from tech illiterates that see linux as a monolith thing or like MacOS where your OS will be identical to another for the most part, technically Linux is just a kernel per se. I use “linux” (mint cinnamon) with Firefox and ubo addon and that page loaded perfectly on thinkpad T470.


I just looked at it in Firefox/Linux, no problem.


Same with Google Chrome stable on Linux (Ubuntu 22.04)

EDIT: Works well on Google Chrome stable on Windows 11 tho


Seems to be very GPU heavy. The GPU in my 7320u is maxed out and the site feels really slow.


For what it's worth, this page was freezing my Windows computer in both Firefox and Chrome. Once I updated my AMD graphics drivers, it now works smoothly. I have an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT. Graphics driver version 23.11.1 .


Running Firefox 115.4.0esr here and there is no problem, you may be running a different version (debian testing). My four core cpu is at 23%, even with thinkorswim running.


I wasn't going to comment because I thought it was only me but yes. I heard the fans and then it crashed.

Thankfully I wasn't doing anything important...


MS Edge on a beefy PC - killing my browser here.


No issue with FF 119.0.1 on macOS/arm.


I'm not sure why you are downvoted; I have the exact same on an up-to-date Firefox.


Kills my firefox on Linux too. Fairly beefy laptop which should have no issues.


Interesting. Firefox on Android handles it just fine for me.


Must be your PC. Works fine on my iPhone with FireFox


Firefox on iPhone uses Webkit. It's basically a Safari skin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Firefox&oldid=118...

> It is the first Firefox-branded browser not to use the Gecko layout engine as is used in Firefox for desktop and mobile. Apple's policies require all iOS apps that browse the web to use the built-in WebKit rendering framework and WebKit JavaScript, so using Gecko is not possible.


Good to know. I am not sure why that was relevant to the page load issues of the Stripe dashboard since I didn’t compare it to Safari


Hopefully Apple's policy ends soon.


Last time I checked Firefox for iPhones was just a UI over Safari engine. Did things change?


No, it is still using Safari WebView, but Apple may be forced to change that policy in the near future if we're lucky.


how are people so confidently wrong about stuff like this?


Works fine for me in Firefox on Android.


Same here on Firefox and Brave


on mac as well. Completely froze everything. Lame




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