Finally, I've been waiting for a non-Pro Threadripper since the 3000 days. The 64 core 7980X looks like a good deal, a bit higher than the 3990x but still not bad. Gotta see the compile and gaming benchmarks though first.
I heard rumors though that the mainline Ryzen will get 32 cores perhaps next year, so we'll have to see how that does.
I would be very surprised if Ryzen goes for 32 cores, 24 is more probable. If they do go for that many cores, it will likely be "Zen 5C" cores, which may or may not be competitive with Threadripper being full Zen 4 cores.
Regardless, it's the memory channels and extra PCIE lanes that makes Threadripper shine, oh, and now HEDT gets Registered ECC which is fantastic.
> I would be very surprised if Ryzen goes for 32 cores, 24 is more probable.
The rumor is that the CCX is going from 8 to 16 cores, at which point a 24 core ryzen would necessarily be 2 partially-enabled CCXs. That wouldn't make much sense as their high end configuration which so far has always been 2 fully enabled compute chiplets. So if that 16 core CCX change is true then 32 full fat cores for the top end Ryzen is the most likely scenario. There wouldn't really be any reason for AMD to just refuse to put 2 fully enabled dies together, especially since as you noted Threadripper & Epyc already offer more benefits that Ryzen just won't get.
Yes and it is Zen 4 Core, so a lot faster than the 3000 days. My only concern is the Quad Memory Channel. Not sure if the 64 Core will be limited by it.
Did they really do this again? They already have a 12-channel and 6-channel DDR5 socket for EPYC, now they're going to have two completely different sockets just for Threadripper with 4 and 8?
This isn't even market segmentation. Threadripper costs just as much as EPYC. It's pointless.
I heard rumors though that the mainline Ryzen will get 32 cores perhaps next year, so we'll have to see how that does.