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Microsoft execs on acquiring TikTok (2020) (twitter.com/techemails)
35 points by mfiguiere on Sept 19, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 7 comments



The sale price discussed in this email is $10-30 billion. That seems like a very good price to me considering ByteDance's yearly revenue of $80 billion. Of course most of that revenue isn't from the USA, and we can only guess as to what the profit is from that revenue.

But if we do some extremely rough estimates, assuming that 25% of revenue comes from the USA and that they make a 30% margin, then it would take them 3 - 5 years to recoup the investment assuming 0 growth. Plus, I'm sure they could save on hosting costs by leveraging Azure, and tie the ads in with Bing ads. Obviously these numbers are rough and might be way off.

That seems like a really great value for them. If I were in their shoes, I'd probably offer even more.


AFAIK Oracle bought it.


> AFAIK Oracle bought it.

Doesn't look like they did.

https://www.google.com/search?q=oracle+buys+tiktok

Afaik, it looks at best that TikTok agreed to host their stuff on Oracle's cloud but it also kind of sounds like that never happened either [1].

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TikTok#Project_Texas


Both Microsoft and the US administration (Trump at that time) were pretty open about it, Twitter was a little bit shy

Wich is funny because that's precisely when the FUD started to appear

https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitter-tiktok-have-held-prelim...

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/6/21357231/microsoft-tiktok-...


Where's the company lists they're talking about? The ones they'd consider buying.


I would assume that those lists are internal, but if you look at their acquisition history, it seems like pretty much any company that is profitable and can help them in an area they're involved in, even if indirectly. Look at how they snapped up Mojang (Minecraft) and Activision, which gives them a ton of leverage in gaming. But also Github, which combined with VSCode gives them a ton of leverage in the developer space.

It's pretty incredible to me that this kind of stuff still gets discussed by executives over email in this day and age. Not that this content is particularly scandalous (beyond the fact that they're talking about acquiring Nintendo like it's not a big deal, man they really aren't worried at all about antitrust regulation) but it's extremely candid about their overall strategy and they have to know these emails becoming public record due to discovery in some such lawsuit or hack is a big possibility.


Not much different than an exec leaving for a rival




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