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> There is no training to be a good CEO. They are not easily replaceable.

If Steve Jobs—who first created and then basically rescued Apple and started it on the path to where it is today—can be 'replaced' then any other leader can be replaced.

Similarly there are plenty of CEOs that are paid oodles of money that were or are absolute garbage: see Boeing for the last 15+ years as Exhibit A.




Steve was replaced with one of the greatest minds in Operations that history has ever known, and much of Apple's success under Steve was thanks to Tim. So Apple is not the best example if you're trying to show "CEOs don't matter."


> So Apple is not the best example if you're trying to show "CEOs don't matter."

I wasn't try to show that they don't matter, but that they are replaceable. And few companies need to have "the greatest mind in Operations that history has ever known" to function well.

Does Eli Lilly, Unitedheath, Johnson & Johnson, Procter & Gamble, Home Depot, Pepsico, Walmart, Coca Cola, Accenture, Intuit, Caterpillar, Lowes, Nike?

* https://www.slickcharts.com/sp500

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S%26P_500_companies

Heaven knows that the last few CEOs of Boeing mattered as they have completely screwed the pooch and basically wrecked that company—all the while making a whole lot of money.


Your definition of “replaceable” is so loose to be meaningless. Yes, any person can be appointed to the CEO position when another leaves. No, it is not easy to appoint one that will steer the company to greater success than the previous one.


So CEOs can definitely wreck a company, but they’re all interchangeable? Not sure I follow.

Everyone is replaceable, but some people are simply better suited for their role than others.


Steve Jobs is practically an example of WHY top CEOs get paid so much. Apple was basically in its death throes when he came back. A few years later they had the iPod. A few years after that the iPhone. When he died in 2011 they were well on their way to being the worlds most valuable publicly listed company.

I do think a lot of CEOs are way overpaid. That said, if a couple hundred million package means the difference between a company folding and firing everyone, or being a multi-billion dollar business with thousands of employees, the math works out.


> Steve Jobs is practically an example of WHY top CEOs get paid so much.

Yes, I explicitly mentioned that: without Jobs AAPL would not be where it was today. But he was replaced.

If someone as instrumental as Jobs can be replaced then so can any CEO that is/was less instrumental.

And what other CEOs are / were as instrumental as Jobs? What other major companies need to have someone of that calibre?

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S%26P_500_companies

> That said, if a couple hundred million package means the difference between a company folding and firing everyone, or being a multi-billion dollar business with thousands of employees, the math works out.

Now do the example of packages that cost millions of dollars and the CEOs wrecked the companies, like Boeing, or Enron, or WorldCom. Or Jack Welch's financial shenanigans at GE.


He was replaced, but not with someone as good. Apple has done well under Tim Cook, but there is an obvious lack of innovative vision since Steve’s passing.


The Apple Watch launched 4 years after he died. He probably wasn't involved in that at all, or just barely. Which means that was all Cook's doing. It's now a multi-billion dollar business on its own.

AirPods launched 5 years after he died. It's highly unlikely he was involved at all. That's now also a multi-billion dollar business.

Apple Vision is about to come out. I wouldn't be surprised if that turns into a mult-billion dollar business after a few years.

Yes, Tim Cook does not have the charisma of Steve Jobs, and probably doesn't have the design sense either. But he's awfully good at putting the right people in the right places to steer the ship with him and have quite a strong vision of the future.


Perhaps if they offered a pay increase they could attract someone better, but maybe they can't afford it.




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