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> Additional fun fact: O'Dwyer has superior due process protections in the US than he does in the UK.

The same protections that Manning has? They don't seem to amount to much.




I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but O'Dwyer can't be tried in a military court, and neither O'Dwyer nor Manning can be coerced into testifying against themselves (unlike in the UK system, which does penalize defendants for not testifying).

This is one of those arguments like "yeah well tell that to the people at Gitmo" that seems like it must have much more moral force to the person making the argument than to anyone hearing it. The US government is not systematically depriving fraud suspects of due process rights.


> The US government is not systematically depriving fraud suspects of due process rights.

No, only in cases where someone having those rights would be a nuisance to the US government.

Manning has been tortured by your government for a long time now, purely because they wanted to make an example out of him. Is that alright?

Basically, if you don't have due process rights whenever the US government unilaterally decides that you don't, then what exactly do the rights matter? Are they even rights anymore?




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