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It doesn’t matter because a response is not there in a form of a heart rate, adrenaline, etc. There’s no sign of the whole chain of imminent reactions that pain creates. And when an anesthesiologist sees it, they stop the procedure and act immediately. If there’s no psychological trauma after you wake up, you felt nothing. But it may be if a team was negligent.

i'm not convinced that either one is equal to death

I can’t see why. Imagine you’re unconscious: anesthesia, fainting, dream, coma, knockout. Is there something else that must happens to your consciousness that will make you dead? To me it’s like turning off the main switch when lights are already out. You just can’t Alexa turn them back on, that’s it.




> Is there something else that must happens to your consciousness that will make you dead?

Death is a thing that you don’t come back from[1], so it’s impossible for anyone living to tell us what it’s like after dying. Being knocked out, is not death. If you don’t dream at night, you don’t die every night.

1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death


This implies it is like something when you never return from knockout, opposed to when you eventually do. Which is why I’m asking the question above.

If you don’t dream at night, you don’t die every night

Of course you do not. We talk about states, not their finality.




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