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The History of Coffee (2015) (ncausa.org)
103 points by thunderbong on June 23, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 60 comments



Today I came across with this Wikipedia article about the coffee crisis in east Germany in the '70s

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_German_coffee_crisis

You can see how important coffee has become in our society.

On a more funny note, I always found this episode of Dexter's Lab hilarious:

https://youtu.be/QZpy9r_KXqc


Reminds me of the scene from movie Aeroplane where the flight attendant announces all that's wrong with the flight, and nobody bats an eye. Then as she's almost done, she adds that they've ran out of coffee, and then panic ensues.


Picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!


Fun fact: East Germany created the Vietnamese Coffee Industry in an attempt to find a way out of the crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBnQrqW6ZNE

Brotherly socialist nations and all that.


“The famed Brazilian coffee owes its existence to Francisco de Mello Palheta, who was sent by the emperor to French Guiana to get coffee seedlings.”

Small nitpick: at this time Brazil was a Portuguese colony and the monarch was called King John V, not an “emperor”. Brazil only got an emperor when it became independent about one century later.

Why did Peter, the son of a Portuguese King ruling over territories spanning 4 continents, decided to call himself an Emperor when ruling over a single (albeit large!) territory? I don’t know, ego?


Why not, I know folks who call themselves Senior Data Professionals who can't even use Excel.


I once worked with a ‘senior XML developer'


"Engineers" making CRUD apps...


I think calling yourself emperor was all the rage at the time.

Prior to Napoleon and the dissolution of the HRE the Roman Empire was sort of still viewed as single and indivisible, it wasn’t a exactly a generic title (well.. at most there could be two legitimate ones).

But now you had the Emperor of the French, Emperor of Austria, Russia (prior to that), so why not Brazil? Since you’re establishing a new state anyway might as well pick the best available title.


I think there are also some connotations associated with the idea of Empire that implies greater centralization and control.

One thing that's fairly interesting is how the British did not allow their monarch to become an Emperor, because of the traditional liberties associated with English monarchy and parliament.

When Queen Victoria became Empress of India, parliament only consented to her becoming a Queen-Empress, not an Empress-Queen, to emphasize the fact that Britain was still a kingdom.


It was also arguably seen as a more “democratic” office by some. The imperial throne in the HRE or in the eastern empire was always technically non hereditary. Being at its root a republican title in a certain way.


There is also a fascinating story about how we got coffee breaks, as it turns out the today what we consider "coffee breaks" is tied to a court case back in 1955!

See this article from Time: https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,937...


I don't see a connection to the larger practice of coffee breaks. It looks more like one guy had an argument about whether or not to pay workers for break time.


There are plenty amount of articles to read if you search for the court case, here are some:

[1]: https://daily.stoa.com/newsletter/coffee-and-capitalism

[2]: https://www.guadaluperoastery.com/blogs/news/how-coffee-infi...


It was the unions wasn't it?


No


And, if you'd like to see a little bit of what goes on where the coffee is grown, you could do worse than picking up one of the below excellent photobooks:

Sebastião Salgado's 'Scent of a Dream' or Steve McCurry's 'From These Hands' - both provide a wonderful portrait of the people who work hard to bring coffee to our shores. (Salgado works in B/W, McCurry almost exclusively in colour, if that makes a difference to you.)


Here's someone trying to evolve the industry to be more worker and environmentally friendly.

https://terraformcoldbrew.com/


Here is a very enjoyable episode of In Our Time on the history of coffee:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000c4x1


> The controversy was so great that Pope Clement VIII was asked to intervene. He decided to taste the beverage for himself before making a decision, and found the drink so satisfying that he gave it papal approval.

if someone would have given him a pinch of coke it might be sanctioned now by the church. i'm sure he would have found it very satisfying, too ... ;D


Later popes did indeed. Popes Leo XIII and Pius X were drinkers of the Vin Mariani coca wine, the former even awarding its creator Angelo Mariani a Vatican gold medal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin_Mariani


Vin Mariani was the inspiration for John Pemberton to create his own "French Wine Coca" nerve tonic, which also included caffeine from the Kola nut. Later, influenced by the temperance movement, he left out the alcohol (but not the coca), and thus, the first iteration of Coca-Cola was born...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola#19th_century_histori...


> It originally contained 6 mg of cocaine per fluid ounce of wine (211.2 mg/L),

0.2g per L of uncut yeyo ... that's definitely not a placebo.


That’s gonna pack a fair whallop, especially given the coadministration with ethanol results in the whole cocaethylene thing happening resulting in a longer lasting buzz.


those were the days ... but then society went down the drain and they all died - good that it's illegal now and nobody uses it anymore!


I really dislike the taste of coffee, but the article is a very interesting read.

Funny quote:

>Coffee began to replace the common breakfast drink beverages of the time — beer and wine.


> I really dislike the taste of coffee

One of the variations on making coffee that I've read about is Black Blood of the Earth.

http://www.funraniumlabs.com/the-black-blood-of-the-earth/

> Then I received my diagnosis as a Type II diabetic. I could no longer add sugar in the quantity necessary to make coffee from the cafe next door drinkable, but if I didn’t drink coffee I was in danger of not being able to actually stay awake through a morning of wrangling x-ray machines and radioactive materials. Experimentation began in earnest with BBotE as it promised to eliminate what I couldn’t stand the most about normal percolation coffee, bitterness and acidity.

The description is that it tastes like coffee smells.

I've been curious about this myself. I am not a fan of coffee but in my explorations with advent calendars of a wide range of spirits I had some spiced coffee rum which was quite enjoyable. So, if my caffeine needs lead me in that direction again, I'll likely give it a try.


I am curious why you pretty much can't find any mainstream brand of coffee made from Robusto beans - I have never seen a Robusto bean coffee in any grocery store I've ever checked - all 100% Arabica. Seems like with 2x the caffiene there would be a market for it. There are plenty of high-caffiene specialty brands of Arabica - why not just get 2x in the same amount of coffee? Besides, I think the caffiene content they show on the labels is before roasting and the more they roast it, the less caffiene afterwards. There is a misconception that the darker, the more caffiene but its actually the opposite. Just dumb stuff I wonder about...


You can find Deathwish coffee in many grocery stores these days (it’s in most Safeways) and it’s a blend of robusta and arabica beans. Way overpriced with cringey marketing and not the best tasting, but meets your criteria I think


I'm not sure where to find whole beans but I'm pretty sure many brands of instant coffee (e.g. the Folgers and Nescafe of the world) actually use Robusto or at least a blend of Robusto and Arabica.


I bought some unroasted (green) robusta beans from sweetmarias.com and then roasted them. It wasn't bad, but I prefer arabica. It has a more earthy taste. Some espresso blends are part robusta.


Vietnamese coffee. Also, my favorite.


If anyone looks at this page and wants a bit more then I'd recommend The Devil's Cup by Stewart Lee Allen, it's a travelogue as he explores the origins and cultural impact of coffee across the world.


And if you're a tea person like me, I highly recommend this history:

https://www.amazon.com/All-Tea-China-England-Favorite/dp/014...

Tea has the larger world-historical impact, I would say.


Coffee is surprisingly young in history. You'd think it was known (somewhere) since ancient or older times, but it seems to be since 1500s.

I think that means that drinking or eating cocoa is a much older custom than coffee?


People have been drinking tea for 4000 years. Yerba mate and guayasa have also been consumed for a long time, possibly even pre Incan so caffeine has been consumed for a long time.


One theory is that the era of industrialism started because Europeans started drinking coffee, which made them more industrious.


a large missing piece to the above "history" the article describes, is that somewhere along the way a fire accidentally roasted the coffee beans and this wrinkle enhanced the coffee preparation process. Many legends exist telling the context story of how this fire occurred.


Gastropod has two excellent podcasts on the subject...

(1) "Grounds for Revolution: The Stimulating Story of How Coffee Shaped the World" at https://gastropod.com/grounds-for-revolution-the-stimulating...

(2) "Déjà-Brew: How Coffee Got Bad, Then Worse, and, Finally, Good Again" at https://gastropod.com/deja-brew-how-coffee-got-bad-then-wors...


i love posts like this as it mixes my passion of coffee ( as a roaster) and a community of tech folks that we can discuss all the history... Coffee has such a wide and interesting history rooted in capitalism.


Caffeine is a drug. It is legal by chance alone. I wish I never started taking it as a teenager.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine


It's not legal by chance. Coffee is good for the heart and possibly slightly extends life. It can help you get stuff done. Not all drugs are bad for you.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/947300?


Why?


As I am getting older, coffee makes me wake up at night to visit the toilet.


That's a bit of a weak supporting argument for "it is legal by chance alone"


Just stop drinking the stuff then... You'll have a wicked headache the first week, but after that you'll be okay.


> You'll have a wicked headache

Really?

I used to drink a litre a day when I worked from home, brewed strong. Later I got an office job, and my consumption slowly tailed off, to te point I was drinking just one mug in the morning. No effort, no plan or intention, and certainly no headaches. It's no problem if I miss my morning joe.

I have an addictive personality, and I drink and smoke a lot; I don't think any addictive substance is easier to quit than coffee.


Yes, really!

What you did is called tapering. You reduced your dose slowly enough to avoid withdrawal symptoms.

I assure you that the withdrawal is very real, though nothing ibuprofen can’t take care of. To experience it, just quit drinking all caffeine cold turkey.


I got ill and couldn't keep anything down. The caffeine withdrawal was brutal. I resolved not to start drinking caffeinated coffee again. Decaff worked for a few months. Now I'm back on the full strength, but not as much.


I drink ~8 cups per day most days, but I only need one to avoid getting a headache.


That's an incredible amount of coffee/caffeine. I had to realize I had a problem when I was up to 5, but that's just me of course.


Could be that the nicotine helped make up for your caffeine deficit.


I've never experienced anything worse than a mild one, and then only one day. Just reduce intake gradually. If coffee is a drug, kicking the habit is really the easiest thing.


You generally should not drink coffee cca 6 hours before going to sleep, there is no way diuretic effect still persist during your sleep if you adhere to this simple principle.

If you already got addicted, or just self-curing some other problems with high doses of coffee, maybe attack those problems head-first. Coffee is really not source of your issues in this case.

If we view it from perspective of addiction, then sugar should be banned in all forms first and foremost, then lets start talking about relatively mild stuff like caffeine. And all this is long after alcohol and all nicotine products are long banned. We know already how well that works, right.


There's also a big genetic variation in caffeine metabolisation speed between individuals. For some 4 hours before bed might be fine, while for others even 12+ hours before messes up their sleep.


I get by on one cup of coffee before noon now, it seems to work. I'm one of those that feels effects on sleep from just more than one cup or coffee much later than lunch.


Same, but only because I keep drinking it until 2am.


Coffee is diuretic. Pineapple or asparagus might have the same effect. But maybe unnoticeable because they don't keep you awake :)

I switched to decaf and can enjoy this pleasure without a bad sleep.


It could be due to an enlarged prostate rather than the coffee.


As an older male, I can confirm that all these causes add up. By controlling or limiting some of them, I can keep the consequences in check.




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