Point taken about heat getting into food versus going up the side of the pot, but the break even still ties into my point that the real gains are still forward-looking rather than immediate.
> I am kind of amazed a culture war broke out over [gas stoves]
Hah. I am very not surprised. A seemingly-harmless everyday item in people's homes that the "big government" is "taking away"? There's certainly valid top-down arguments about the indoor air quality in the inefficient rental market, but they don't apply to single family homes (in the US paradigm it's fundamentally a personal choice).
> I was unfortunately unable to find the text in the bill (or the exact bill)
Same here, which is doubly unfortunate with all of these more-heat-than-light topics where the "news" articles drown out the primary sources. Some of my digging did indicate that propane was included, but it's hard to know if that was just a hallucination (in the large language model sense, regardless of whether the articles were written by silicon LLMs).
I know personally if I just had to have a gas stove in new construction, I'd get a few 20 pound propane tanks and plumb it myself. I actually considered doing this if I wanted a gas stove (versus paying a monthly fee for municipal gas), but ultimately decided against gas because the less flammable stuff in the house the better (moving appliances with those flex lines always gives me the willies as I think about metal fatigue). But solving your own problems isn't really relevant in the culture war...
> I am kind of amazed a culture war broke out over [gas stoves]
Hah. I am very not surprised. A seemingly-harmless everyday item in people's homes that the "big government" is "taking away"? There's certainly valid top-down arguments about the indoor air quality in the inefficient rental market, but they don't apply to single family homes (in the US paradigm it's fundamentally a personal choice).
> I was unfortunately unable to find the text in the bill (or the exact bill)
Same here, which is doubly unfortunate with all of these more-heat-than-light topics where the "news" articles drown out the primary sources. Some of my digging did indicate that propane was included, but it's hard to know if that was just a hallucination (in the large language model sense, regardless of whether the articles were written by silicon LLMs).
I know personally if I just had to have a gas stove in new construction, I'd get a few 20 pound propane tanks and plumb it myself. I actually considered doing this if I wanted a gas stove (versus paying a monthly fee for municipal gas), but ultimately decided against gas because the less flammable stuff in the house the better (moving appliances with those flex lines always gives me the willies as I think about metal fatigue). But solving your own problems isn't really relevant in the culture war...