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> I'd rather pay $3 on the toll road and $50k for a surgery myself than pay $10 in taxes towards the road and $100k in taxes towards the healthcare system but receive both of them for "free".

That would be a nice scenario to choose to be in.

However, the US _government_ pretty much spends more per-person than those countries with a social net [1]. So in reality, you're paying those taxes of those social countries and also getting to pay private insurance ontop of that. Although current taxes are lower than the social countries since the government's expenditures are debt financed but if the USG were to stop they'd have to raise taxes to pay it with revenue and then you'll be really wondering why you're paying the same in taxes as the EU and not getting EU benefits.

[1]: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.GHED.PP.CD?most_...




Healthcare is its own issue in the US, as I think the general populous is on average a good bit unhealthier than the average Norwegian, for example. I think it's a combination of poor health education (which also goes back to spending) and culture.


but it's all connected.

- cities designed around cars

- bad worker protection laws

- corporate welfare first before human welfare

- monopolies driving up prices.


US cities were based around cars in 1990. But today, the thinnest state (Colorado) is heavier on average than the fattest state in 1990 (Mississippi, also today's national leader)

Walking is obviously better than not walking, but something other than cars is to blame for the ballooning of the American public. 75% of America is either overweight or obese right now. That alone puts you at risk for about a million health issues and diseases.


> 75% of America is either overweight or obese right now.

Do you have a citation for that? I'm seeing numbers closer to 30% (which is still bad).


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

"Percent of adults aged 20 and over with overweight, including obesity: 73.6%"


Woah, I stand corrected. That's insane.


The BMI tables are fairly unexpected. 5'8" normal range is 125-158 and at 125 you look like you run the 2 mile in track.

Of course that also shows how many Americans are overweight since the scrawny track kid is considered super skinny.




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