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There is another way to look at it.

In a time of increasing idleness and voluntary economic non participation by wider and wider sections of society, as their existence is subsidised by the state, by other tax payers, by ex husbands... and in the case of XR&JSO, by donations there might be a need for change.

They have discovered that a handful of people can cause misery to thousands by blocking roads, already an offence, but one selectively enforced when it intersects with so called protest due to court precedent set in recent years.

These groups often have no particular goals that they articulate, no achievable ones in particular and it cannot be assumed that their stated goals are their goals. I believe i have insight as to their motivations and goals and they don't align with the ephemeral nonsense they claim they want to happen. It wouldn't make sense to do so. On that basis this isn't legitimate protest - it's low level terrorism.

If you have to live in proximity to this near endless lunacy it is obvious how ridiculous it has become. How much of society will you allow to be interrupted before enough is enough?

XR/JSO ran for election in London very recently for Mayor - the city they attack the most - and got fewer votes than a comedy candidate called Count Binface.




> XR/JSO ran for election in London very recently for Mayor - the city they attack the most

I looked to see if this was true and couldn't find any joint extinction rebellion/ just stop oil candidates, nor any for either of them split.

> and it cannot be assumed that their stated goals are their goals

I think you are verging into conspiratory theories here, but I'll humor you. What are these goals you have an insight to?

> On that basis this isn't legitimate protest

It doesn't matter why you're protesting, you can do it for any reason. That's a cornerstone of a free and democratic society

I have to hope you aren't one of those people who believe everything is secretly funded by Bildeberg group for some nefarious agenda and that protestors dont really believe what theyre protesting about or whatever . If you are, try talking to some people under 30 about politics, or really just getting outside of your bubble.


Let's start in reverse order

> I have to hope you aren't one of those people who believe everything is secretly funded by Bildeberg group for some nefarious agenda etc etc

What does it tell you about yourself that to engage in a discussion you have to assume, despite me making some pretty clear points which I will clarify below, that you immediately label it as a conspiracy?

> doesn't matter why you're protesting, you can do it for any reason. That's a cornerstone of a free and democratic society

They can protest without blocking roads. Blocking a road is not inherently protesting. It's blocking a road. You could be holding a Bible quote or a big orange banner. The end goal of these protests is the act of performative protest, little more. *The end is nigh*

> What are these goals you have an insight to?

The same thing the edgy far left has wanted for 150 years. The absolute destruction of western society, and by proxy capitalism. Except they know that won't happen so the actual outcome they expect is beyond me. You can find plenty of evidence of such thinking from anyone involved. It's why you will find SWP banners handed out at any number of dozens of "protests". The climate stuff is just the latest hook of social injustice they've adopted. I'd love to see this refuted.

> I looked to see if this was true and couldn't find any joint extinction rebellion/ just stop oil candidates, nor any for either of them split.

They are both not an organisation and the same organisation so as individuals involved can say they are not involved. For the purposes of British law when they are tried they don't want to be tried as an organisation or members of one

> looked to see if this was true and couldn't find any joint extinction rebellion/ just stop oil candidates, nor any for either of them split

Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Pink

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_London_mayoral_election

0.2% of the vote.

In fact their website redirect to

https://linktr.ee/burningpink

I quote:

> Bring Down the Government, replace it with Citizen Decision Making.

You will find a press release on there where 12 members of their party - maybe that's the whole party - were taken to court for criminal damage etc during an XR "protest"


Have you tried talking to someone?


What does that even mean?


What a quality rebuttal


It's at least more coherent than what you wrote.


Is there something specific with which you had an issue?




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