I think we should also reflect that the only evidence so far is a video of someone wearing a mask and I've yet to see any other public evidence that it's actually this same guy -
> Joe Alioto Veronese, an attorney who is close to Carmignani, said he viewed an image provided by a neighborhood group of a suspect in the earlier attacks on homeless people. He said the person was not Carmignani.
> “It doesn’t look anything like Don,” Alioto Veronese said. “It’s a whole different guy.”
Not true. The article mentions that all 8 incidents took place in the same vicinity and the public defender asserts that it's the same kind of bear spray Carmignani had when when he encountered Doty.
> “It doesn’t look anything like Don,” Alioto Veronese said. “It’s a whole different guy.”
The baseball cap and mask make identification uncertain, but it could certainly be him. That the police inspector preëmptively included the information in the case file suggests they already suspected him.
> "I didn't go out there to fight anyone," Carmignani told CBS. "I'm trying to get them down the road, go to the park."
Yeah, well doesn't seem that way to anyone else.
Guess this is what it's become. At what point to do they cordon off San Francisco as a zone of abandonment and urban warfare now? Seems on par with South Central LA of the 80's, only that had less shit involved, literally and figuratively, just bullets.
I'm waiting for dramatization, Escape from San Francisco, starring a de-aged Kurt Russell as Snake Plissken. Maybe Elon Musk can airlift him out with spacex/tesla from Fremont.
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine had a couple of episodes set in San Francisco of the twenty first century that's looking more and more of an accurate prediction. It even had a wall to keep the impoverished away from the rest of society, so who knows how much more predictive it will end up being.
The reason that Black Lives Matter today is because gangstas have owned the streets for 40+ years.
It is certainly unjust that any innocent should die at the hands of a police officer, but it is not unexpected, that after 40 years of no-holds-barred, take-no-prisoners gang warfare in the streets of every major metro and urb, that police have developed an itchy trigger finger when it comes to confrontations with the general public, who have typically been quite well-armed and combat-ready.
I would point out that George Floyd, whose death brought on protests, riots, the proliferation of BLM signs, etc., was not shot, was in fact in custody.
I'm having trouble parsing who you think is the wronged party here, but to be clear this fire official was going around bear spraying random innocuous homeless people before one of his victims fought back and beat him up.
Just in the interests of accuracy, he's a former fire commissioner. He resigned after 4 months in the job ~10 years ago following his arrest on domestic violence charges.
The message pretty clearly states that the visible presence of the homeless is a crime against the OP that leads to vigilantism (i.e., attacks on the homeless). This kind of eliminationist rhetoric is common on this site.
Anything invoicing trans people like me, and especially anything involving families with trans kids.
It's not by accident that everyone in my immediate social circle carries a weapon of some kind now. The existential threat from both the state and other citizens grows daily.
I'm genuinely sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, this forum looks to attract a certain kind of people, and those people find it easy to hide uncouth comments under the guise of "curious discussion".
It doesn't help that moderation is almost non-existent, aside from when VC's get put under blast, or when . Asking for sources for ridiculous comments (eg: Dropbox laid off people in order of performance) gets flagged, then removed, but off-topic humor in bad taste remains.
Not GP but I'll bite: the guilty party is 100% the bear sprayer, whoever it may be (commissioner or not).
But breakdown of law, order and general societal cohesion invites this kind of behaviour. It's still the perpetrator's fault, but conditions are made so that these people are more likely to lash out.
Not sure that bear-spraying people sleeping on the street counts as justice, vigilante or not. I have an expansive view of self-defense but the behavior depicted in the video doesn't make the cut. I kinda doubt all these incidents were bad guys taking a nap, given that the victims made police reports. It's not unreasonable to guess that there were some more incidents that went unrecorded.
Despicable
> "I didn't go out there to fight anyone," Carmignani told CBS. "I'm trying to get them down the road, go to the park."
Just bear-spraying the sidewalk