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> Furthermore, one of the lessons we learned from the bad assumptions of Ptolemy (geocentrism) is to never assume that we occupy a special position from which we make observations.

The geocentric model does not assume “we” are in a special position. The center of the universe would be the center of the earth, not the point of the observer or any human.

(But interestingly, in Dantes Comedy, the devil is placed in the center of the earth and hence the center of the universe.)




In modern astronomy parlance, "we" refers to humans, i.e. earthlings, hence the earth. Placing the earth at the centre of anything in your theory is applying a human-centric bias to your ideas. Astronomers and cosmologists try to avoid that nowadays.

When talking about deep space objects (such as distant galaxies), the centre of the earth vs. the surface is far below the noise floor in terms of distance.


His point was that being at the spatial center does not automatically imply the sort of bias you and others seem to impute. Indeed, it would have been considered idolatrous and prideful to put Man at the center (who should prefer to reign in Hell rather than serve in Heaven?). God is at the center, in the ancient world but especially during the Medieval period. Someone once remarked that the spatial centrality of the earth was commonly understood as a kind of centrality within the lowest order of reality (Man himself is, in Catholic tradition, the lowest of the intellectual beings). This actually sheds some light on why the Incarnation is such a big deal. Compare this with the Jewish and Muslim rejection of the notion that God would lower Himself by entering and uniting with Creation in such an intimate way.

If anything, it is the Enlightenment that dethrones God and installs Man at the center of concern. Modernism is in this sense a kind of worship of Man, and what is worship if not putting something at the center?

I think people attach too much significance to the historical belief in geocentrism. It is a very reasonable default position to take given what is observable. Much of the mythology surrounding heliocentrism and how supposedly theologically disastrous it was is fabrication and Enlightenment propaganda.


> Placing the earth at the centre of anything in your theory is applying a human-centric bias to your ideas.

No, it is applying an earth-centric bias. Humans are not in the center, they live between the earth and the celestial spheres.

> When talking about deep space objects (such as distant galaxies)

But in that perspective, heliocentrism is basically just as human centric as geocentrism.


> The geocentric model does not assume “we” are in a special position. The center of the universe would be the center of the earth, not the point of the observer or any human.

I don't think anybody was laboring under this miscomprehension, no need to "clarify" for the OP just to introduce your Dante anecdote.


A sibling comment calls geocentrism “human centric bias”, so yes, some have the misconception that geocentrism places humans at the center.




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