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Speaking of cheating, one thing I've been thinking:

With GPT, what's the deal with non-live coding interviews and challenges, e.g. HackerRank and similar? Right now HackerRank can be configured to disallow alt-tabbing and you can demand there's a web camera on pointing at the candidate. Disregarding for a minute how intrusive and ridiculous these requirements are, is HackerRank's business model gone now that ChatGPT exists?

Yes, I cannot alt-tab. Say hello to my second laptop that you cannot see with the web camera. You also cannot see my hands. As we speak, I'm typing your "go through a list and build/find whatever in O(N)" for ChatGPT in my second laptop, thanks for playing!




This lazy way of interviewing is toast. The better way is take-home projects followed by a discussion. With GPT, those “3-4 hour” projects now become ~20 minutes, and the follow up discussion is for validating that interviewer can trust the candidate to audit the results and take responsibility for getting it to work correctly.

I really loved what Steve said about software engineering being a field that exists because you can’t trust code.


> This lazy way of interviewing is toast. The better way is take-home projects followed by a discussion.

Agreed, this is what I'm thinking too. The "lazy" way is made obsolete by ChatGPT. And good riddance, frankly!


You could also google your hackerrank task on the second computer.

Which, I assume, is the primary motivation for "no alt tabbing" to begin with.


Yes, of course. But ChatGPT/Copilot is more flexible, for the same reasons it's "better" than just googling (e.g. maybe you find the solution in Java but HackerRank wants it in Python, and it's trivial to ask ChatGPT for the translation. And this is just an example).

For coding problems this is essentially a more flexible search engine, one with which you can interact better to tweak the result.

If you can simply take the challenge prompt, paste it on ChatGPT, and have an answer in seconds, doesn't this more or less make the kinds of challenges often employed in HackerRank obsolete?


My experience with leetcode at least is, you can just access the forum of the given task to look at solutions (and explanations) by other people. So for anything other than challenging yourself, it is already obsolete without additional tools.

I see how ChatGPT might be a more flexible search engine, I just don't think it is a fundamentally new mode of cheating that hasn't been possible before.

The 'real challenge' with the two computer setup is having to retype the whole task anyways ;)




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