i was with up until the last paragraph. i like to make fun of javascript as much as the next person (unless you're a dyed in the wool only programs in JS type person, then i make fun of you too ;-) however, the web definitely has benefited from local interactive programming. it just so happens that JS was the language of the web browser. thinking that the internet would be nearly as interesting without some sort of local interactive programming in the browser just screams trolling or someone that really doesn't remember the early days of the web in its full glory.