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Customer has $100.

Customer deposits this $100 at a bank.

The bank now has $100, and the customer has $0.

The bank uses the $100 to purchase a treasury bill.

The treasury bill falls in value and is now worth $80 on the open market.

The Fed says, it's cool, just pretend it's worth $100 because it will look bad otherwise.

Customer says, I want my $100 back.

The bank is now forced to sell the treasury bill and admit that it's actually worth $80.

Fed says, it's cool, just give us your $80 treasury and we'll print $100 and give it to you.

There now exist, a $80 treasury (held by the Fed) and $100 in cash which is given to the customer.

Where is this $180 of value coming from?

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Its inflationary in two ways.

Firstly, money in the economy is created via debt, and Fed in this case is creating a debt which increases money supply. Secondly, the Fed is exchanging the bank's assets at an above market price and taking the loss onto its balance sheet.




> The bank now has $100, and the customer has $0.

This is wrong.

Edit: I see. I think you’re missing the full accounting picture. When somebody moves $100 of petty cash into a bank, they don’t have $0. They have $100 of cash. The bank has an asset and a liability. Rinse and repeat with the bank and Fed transactions. There’s not an $80 treasury note anywhere because those aren’t MTM.


It's a simplification, but I agree, it's not fully accurate.

I'm guessing what you're getting at here is that bank would technically have a $100 liability with the customer and $100 in cash on its balance sheet.

The point I was trying to make is that there's just $100 of spending power in this hypothetical economy.




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