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Agreed with the comments on the demo video music. It was startling.

I'm pretty skeptical still as all your demo has shown is similar to what a boilerplate tool might do, but with more unknowns. You have to start somewhere, though, and I think you're on a decent path.

I've been experimenting with chatgpt to do similar workflows to what you're describing for your vision of Second. From my experiments, it seems your demo may be approaching close to the current limits of gpt models. Fine-tune training on my existing code base and requirements may help, but I still feel like we're a very long way away from your vision for Second. Maybe even far enough away that it won't ever be realized.

Still, you've already built a much better workflow than my experiments have yielded so far, and I think it is a very exciting proposition.

Feel free to disregard, but I think I'd approach the business differently than you have - raise your prices drastically and instead of a dev-facing tool to start, make your offering more like an agency. Hire devs and designers to build the client work and sales people to find more deals. Have devs and designers use your tool, providing feedback. Restrict modes of communication to AI-parseable docs between the client and devs/designers. Collect data as you iterate through as many projects as you can find and staff to deliver. Then train/fine-tune LLMs on that whole dataset. Iterate on your tool throughout this whole process. Even better if you could embed yourself/your tool into existing agencies and dev shop firms, but that seems like it could be difficult to navigate.




Thanks! I'll get the next video audio fixed. Agreed! Have to start somewhere. As the Second bots get more sophisticated, I think they will pull away more and more from what you get today with traditional starter kits and boilerplates. Most strikingly, you can use Second with existing web applications! Can't do that with boilerplates.

About agencies - yea some of my first customers are agencies, and the value prop is pretty great for them. Yea, pricing is super hard.


Jesus just crank it down by about 10 dB and re-upload the exact same video. The music while generic and relatively bland isn't so much an issue as is the fact that it's practically deafening.




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