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Other countries use an actual small claims court for this sort of thing. Y'know, a court with an actual appointed judge (instead of a third party arbitrator who will in part be beholden to the person paying their wages) who can make the decision rapidly instead of waiting for several weeks before a decision is felled.

Arbitration in the US to me (as someone who's had to deal with that shit in digital service EULAs since I'm not in the US) always comes across as signing away your left eye to get a discount on eye surgery on your right eye. Sure, there's some benefit to that discount, but you're trading one hell of a lot away.

It's also usually paired up with things like a class action waiver and other assorted crap that mostly seems to exist to give the company an non-negotiable legal advantage over the consumer/employee.




Other countries use an actual

If we are going to talk about other countries—-they don’t have class actions or gigantic punitive damages awards. Lawsuits are by and large intended to compensate people for their losses rather than be a substitute regulatory regime as in the US. Consumer arbitration, in practice if not theory, is much closer to that.


Small claims in the US is also focused on compensating victims, no?

So if the courts are so flawed why create an entire parallel system, funded by the richer parties? It reeks of selling justice. And the 'voluntary' opt out requires careful reading of lifetimes worth of text, postage, and repeating a bespoke process for every company one ever interacts with.

It all sounds to me like there is a bug in the kernel scheduler (judiciary) so dominant programs (say browsers) demand every app that interacts with them use their choice of user-space scheduler which the dominant party happens to have bankrolled. And all this instead of fixing the kernel.


> why create an entire parallel system

Small claims are for small claims. No lawyers, no juries, no opinions; just a decision. Courts are great for large claims. Lawyers, juries and precedent-setting opinions.

In between are medium-sized claims where you want a lawyer but not a jury or opinion. (There are too many cases and they’re not individually worth it. If they’re worth it in aggregated, they should be certified as a class, something I don’t think one should be allowed to waive one’s right to.)

Arbitration emerged as a solution to claims too big and complex for small claims, but not worth litigating in court.


Except arbitration appears to knee cap class actions. And tilts the scales in favor of companies footing the bill.

Perhaps we need medium claims court that can be independent, instead of a private system bought and paid for by the wealthier party.


Welcome to America. Nothing is elegantly designed but it somehow mostly works pretty well and occasionally fails spectacularly.


America cannot stand still and say "good enough". The US was founded by people unsatisfied with the status quo.


By all means, put in real regulators that actually rein in bad actors and eliminate regulation-by-lawsuits. You have my full support.


> also usually paired up with things like a class action waiver and other assorted crap

These are separate issues.

Arbitration excels at medium-sized claims. Should it be a public function? Absolutely. But that recognises that it has a function distinct from small claims and general litigation.


With a few exceptions small claims limits are in the $10-15k range, with many many states closer to $5k.

There's a lot of stuff that can happen with damages between $15,000 and $1,000,000.


And small claims are generally limited in what sort of relief they can give.




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