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Living around one of Tesla's Gigafactories, I have lots of friends who have worked/do work there.

In the case of our gigafactory, there's horror stories not just inside (machines injuring people), but everyone I talk to specifically talks about the dangers of the commute. It's not super far from town, but the road there is almost entirely used for commuting to and from Tesla, and it's one of those highways where the average speed of traffic is minimum 30mph above the speed limit. Crashes can be seen weekly (daily in the winter) and it affects people. It's a factory, so people are driving there at like 5am and racing there to not be late (they're super strict). Tesla has tried to solve it by providing buses to the factory, but then you'd need to wake up at like 3:30-4am and get home later too.




Here in Sweden we solve that kind of problem with speed cameras that issue automatic speeding tickets…


Where I live they had those but the people running the cameras would snap the photos and stack them so you'd get 60 or 90 days of violations and then they would send them in a big stack so you wouldn't know until the last minute you even did anything wrong, and get all 90 at once. There was also the issue of due process, which means a process server ($$$) had to actually serve the person (who would probably hide and not answer the door) as just sending it in the mail isn't legally considered served.

The other issue is for them to mean anything beyond a civil penalty against the car, you need to show who the driver was and give the public a chance to face their accuser. So people just started driving to work with ski masks, etc and if actually caught would demand a representative from the photo company actually show up in court.

In the off chance you actually were found guilty after all that (process server actually got to you, proved it was your face, accuser actually showed up in court, no technicality was found, and on and on) then the city had to spend practically half the fine money on royalty/maintenance fees to the companies running the camera (the city doesn't have the expertise to do all that on their own). You can imagine the anger and resentment that caused amongst the populace about sending their money away to some for-profit black hole (the executives of this company themselves are on record dodging the process servers too lol after being snapped by their own camera).

It is so abused and fucked up system from so many angles at least where I live it was voted out after having been thoroughly tested and tried.


Every single one of these problems is solvable by a society who actually cares to make roads safe.

But fundamentally you just have a bunch of assholes who think arriving literal MINUTES earlier to something is worth putting their own and dozens/hundreds of strangers’ lives at risk.


There are no speed cameras on the highways though. But on principle, Sweden does it best with the cameras. Before the camera, there is warning sign that gives you plenty of time to slow down(unless you are seriously speeding) which makes much more sense than hidden cameras IMHO. It makes people slow down at dangerous spots on the road, which is the whole point with the cameras right?


> they're super strict

that's literally every factory ever, I really don't see how commuting is Tesla's problem, and I've never heard of a factory offering a bus service to employees, an amazing employee benefit that's usually reserved to highly paid tech workers who live around their company's HQ city


>I really don't see how commuting is Tesla's problem,

Well, we can clearly see why Tesla is unlikely to pull a Toyota ever in the Quality department then.


Why is having to show up to work on time a horror story? I don't get it, especially if Tesla commissioned busses to pick people up.

Serious injuries from machines is much more concerning, however.


Auto accidents are extremely serious. Wasn't that originally one of the arguments for why you should invest in Tesla? Because they will supposedly, one day, have cars that drive themselves safely?

But now that you completely punctured that thought bubble in my head with your incisive comment, I guess they are no big deal. They can all pack it up and liquidate.


What's different about this Tesla factory that people speeding on the highway leading to it are attributable to the factory? I don't see anything different from any other place where people are speeding to get there on time. Put police there. This is not Tesla's fault in any way.




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