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> So the Astronauts should be able to produce working systems that pass functional tests.

Nah. This is just a new version of an old mistake, one people have been repeating for decades. People keep trying to come up with ways for people to "code" without understanding what's going on. Code generation wizards. Visual programming tools. Model driven architecture. And a bunch more.

The hard part about making software isn't writing a bit of starter code. What we saw with the "code wizard" approach is that somebody clueless could click some buttons and get something working. But then they couldn't maintain it. It just kicked the "understand what's going on" problem down the road from "I don't know how to start" to "I am now trapped in a hell of generated code and people are yelling at me".

If some particular application is so standard that it can be produced with only a shallow understanding of how software works, then the right thing isn't using ChatGPT to produce source code. It's when people who have a deeper understanding produce an app that is configurable in the right ways.




My 8 year old asks you to look at from a different angle and evaluate what it can actually do right now.

I would add, just because someone made a prognostication decades ago does not invalidate the same prognostication now.

Have you tried it?


Those aren't decades-old "prognostications". They are things that happened.

Could it be different this time? Maybe! But if you want to say that it will, then you have to make the argument. Or maybe you can get ChatGPT to do it for you?


Have you tried coding with ChatGPT? It works now. You can use it now to architect a system AND produce working code.


Oh? Then it should be easy for you to point me to an example of working system of real-world complexity built this way, yes?

I'm especially interested to see how the system gets improved over time as users try it out, lessons are learned, needs change, etc, etc.


Please stop.


Stop asking you for you to back up your questionable claims? Now that you've stopped making them, sure, I'm glad to.


I have not, but others have detailed examples where it produces rubbish. Certainly not the kind of risk to take with safety critical systems like what an astronaut may rely on.


Exactly. Here's an excellent instance of it being confidently and ridiculously wrong: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/10ydnbb/i_pla...

If it can't handle the relatively simple rules of chess, it sure can't handle coding.




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