I don’t understand why more people don’t think like this. Even from a selfish point of view - you get to live in a place with less violent crime, you get to experience living in a “happier” community, etc etc
I feel like this is the opposite of what’s happened here in the UK and the timescales are not that long but the collective amnesia is staggering. Even just as far back at the mid 00’s seems to have fallen out of the memory of a large proportion of the population.
Violent crime & affordability issues in cities is a choice set by policy makers to make some politically connected people richer, it is not an attribute of cities. Poverty stricken rural places are just as bad, or even worse in many cases.
Why are the people saying this not donating half of their 200k salaries? Is the only way to re-distribute your personal wealth by being compelled by market conditions or by the state?
Because they don't want to selflessly give away $100k for nothing. Rather they selfishly want to live in a healthier society. You're proposing they trade something for nothing, and that's misguided in the best case, or disingenuous in the worst.
I think the point being made is that it's trivially easy to make armchair moral/ethical arguments about spending money in other peoples wallets. And that the arguments would be taken more seriously if the person arguing has actually demonstrated that they have skin in the game, staked their own wallet.
Isn't that what the complaints about NIMBYism are all about? Yeah, I'm all for having other people solving the problems of the poor workers. I don't have to do anything until they do. While we're at it, lets have the software developers clothe and house them as well. They can clearly afford it. It's only fair. Am I a good person now?
Talk is cheap. Do something first before complaining about what others aren't doing.
Again, the goal is not selflessness, it's selfishness. The selfish want to form a more perfect union. No one is saying they want to give away half their salary for nothing, no one is expecting anyone else to do so either.
It's effectively a bunch of people who want a crowd funding campaign for a product to exist, and everyone else saying "if you want to throw your money away, here's a trash can". That's entirely missing the point and completely unhelpful. The goal is to make a collective investment and get something in return.
If we're being real, this group, myself included, is only one step removed from a NIMBY, but it is what it is. If you want to suggest I abandon the little leverage I have to put towards creating a better society for myself and the people around me, I would say: you first. Oh, not interested? Welcome to the club. Now let's work together to make this place we live better.
I feel like this is the opposite of what’s happened here in the UK and the timescales are not that long but the collective amnesia is staggering. Even just as far back at the mid 00’s seems to have fallen out of the memory of a large proportion of the population.