But the comment that I was responding to claimed, "Southwest's meltdown was definitely not an attack." [emphasis added]
I'm not saying it definitely was an attack, nor even that it likely was. Just that it's premature to "definitely" rule it out so soon, a mere 3 weeks out, given the organizational incentives involved & base rates of both extortion/vandalism & (often well-meaning but at the very-least ass-covering) reporting-misdirection about the same.
You seem to agree with me that it remains a possibility, so not sure we actually disagree about any particulars of the event, just the discussion.
Imagine there were a well-refereed, bettable proposition like, say, "By the end of 2030, will either (a) someone be criminally charged for contributing to the Southwest service disruptions of late 2022; or (b) will a knowledgeable Southwest insider or law enforcement agent report they saw evidence that intentional acts worsened the Southwest service disruptions of late 2022?"
Just from base rates of such mischief, & without yet digging deeper, I'd consider an answer of "YES" to have around a 2-3% chance. And something with a 1-in-50 chance of having happened is absolutely a valid topic of speculation deep in forums like this!
Such tail events are where lots of the big wins, & big losses, for industry & society arrive. But also, such real-but-rarer outcomes get habitually ignored by simple mainstream summary coverage, which needs to put neat bows on stories for uninformed & distracted audiences, by short deadlines, reliant on spin from involved entities.
To protest deep in the threads, and insist that a few-weeks old official-sources story is "definitely" the whole explanation, case-closed, stop-speculating-its-hurting?
That's actually hostile to helping curious people understand a complex world based on limited & conflicted information sources.
I'm not saying it definitely was an attack, nor even that it likely was. Just that it's premature to "definitely" rule it out so soon, a mere 3 weeks out, given the organizational incentives involved & base rates of both extortion/vandalism & (often well-meaning but at the very-least ass-covering) reporting-misdirection about the same.
You seem to agree with me that it remains a possibility, so not sure we actually disagree about any particulars of the event, just the discussion.
Imagine there were a well-refereed, bettable proposition like, say, "By the end of 2030, will either (a) someone be criminally charged for contributing to the Southwest service disruptions of late 2022; or (b) will a knowledgeable Southwest insider or law enforcement agent report they saw evidence that intentional acts worsened the Southwest service disruptions of late 2022?"
Just from base rates of such mischief, & without yet digging deeper, I'd consider an answer of "YES" to have around a 2-3% chance. And something with a 1-in-50 chance of having happened is absolutely a valid topic of speculation deep in forums like this!
Such tail events are where lots of the big wins, & big losses, for industry & society arrive. But also, such real-but-rarer outcomes get habitually ignored by simple mainstream summary coverage, which needs to put neat bows on stories for uninformed & distracted audiences, by short deadlines, reliant on spin from involved entities.
To protest deep in the threads, and insist that a few-weeks old official-sources story is "definitely" the whole explanation, case-closed, stop-speculating-its-hurting?
That's actually hostile to helping curious people understand a complex world based on limited & conflicted information sources.