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Oh right, so all of the news coming out of Ukraine that you don't like and that contradicts the story that you'd like to be true is what we should believe. And you are quoting Orwell? Seriously. The thousands of people murdered, raped, tortured and mutilated for life are just making this up but you have the high ground.



A couple of comments ago you were talking about news from "Russian occupied territories", and I was replying to that. The journalists I mentioned were not significant because they are the fountains of truth, but because they report from the occupied territories, rather than from Ukraine itself... where this just happened:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/30/world/europe/zelensky-jou...

Maybe you should see what they have to say. Even if it contradicts the story that YOU would like to be true.




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