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Another thing. I absolutely hate the taste of those materials that pass for compostable stuff these days. The McDonald's around here switched to paper straws (EU laws) and wooden ice cream spoons. I seriously stopped going there since they did. People always tell me, why don't you take your own plastic straw and a spoon if you want to go to McDonald's? Well, when I did used to go it was usually on a whim, when travelling on a motorway far away from home. I would have to remember to carry this stuff with me all the time, just to ocassionally benefit from it. So they lost my business.

What they should've done is what IKEA did when single Use carrier bags were outlawed. Just have much stronger multi-use equivalent one can buy there and then.




>The McDonald's around here switched to paper straws (EU laws)

McDonald's soda in the US used to come in paper cups with plastic straws. Now it appears to come in plastic cups with paper straws.

I don't really know what to make of that.


The paper cups were waxed. They can’t be recycled. At least the plastic is recyclable.


Doesn't 90% of plastic end up in landfills, anyway?


Yes, but McDonalds gets to say that's someone else's fault.


Isn't the same true of the straws?


Yep, one of my favorite places to grab a coffee on the go changed their lids from plastic to something that resembles egg carton (pulp?). By the time a third of the coffee is gone the lid turns into a soggy mush. It doesn't fall apart. Just disgusting to handle... not getting coffee there anymore.


A huge hack with the paper straw is to take it out or put it on the top of the cup when you aren't actively drinking. Then it will actually last the entire portion versus dissolving on you.


What’s wrong with wooden spoons?


The feeling of wood spoons running on my tongue and lips send shivers through my spine. It's a very unpleasant sensation. I understand the need to stop single-use plastics but I rather not eat icecream if I need a wooden spoon to eat it.


first world problems..


There's a large range in quality of wooden spoons. A lot of it comes down to the finish texture.


I assume they mean these - https://www.walmart.com/ip/100pcs-Wooden-Ice-Cream-Spoons-Wo...

If so, you can taste the spoon when you eat ice cream off of it..


Most of the “paper” products that replaced plastic for stuff like straws and take out containers are coated with PFAS.



> Just have much stronger multi-use equivalent one can buy there and then.

That still doesn’t solve your problem: “when I did used to go it was usually on a whim, when travelling on a motorway far away from home”.


I don't understand, why not? He can buy one there at the place if he forgot to bring one along.


Then again, if this is really stopping them from going to McD’s, why not just buy a pack of straws for your glove compartment.

Same with people who forget about reusable bags when you can buy a big pack of plastic bags for $60 for the car.

It’s a weird sort of helplessness, especially while driving what’s basically a mobile storage container. We’re really running out of things to complain about.




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