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> Ya you are, but you know white people and Asians are less likely to be poor compared to Hispanics and African Americans so reality is fighting against your argument.

Yet there are more white people in poverty than black people in the US. If we are trying to give opportunity to impoverished people we would judge by poverty. If we want to live in a racist society then we would judge by race.




> Yet there are more white people in poverty than black people in the US

Where are you people getting these stats? This is being repeated elsewhere and is not based in reality at all.


Why is that statistic even important to you? If it's about solving poverty then judge by how impoverished someone is, not their skin color.

But it also shouldn't be surprising. There are almost 6x as many white people in the US as black people. Poverty rates amongst white people is about half of black people. Do the math.


> There are almost 6x as many white people in the US as black people. Poverty rates amongst white people is about half of black people.

You've given the exact reason why your statement is a completely useless red herring. Say there was a minority in the U.S., the Romulans. Let's say literally every single Romulan in the U.S. was impoverished due to hundreds of years of systemic, intentional racism. But there's only, say, 500,000 of them. Half a million.

Your argument is "we shouldn't give more opportunities to the Romulans to counteract the very obvious and intentional systemic racism that put them in the shitty position they're in, because way more white people are in that shitty position. We should only focus on poverty, so that we help 36 white people for every 1 Romulan helped. Even though the Romulans are impoverished because of intentional, systemic racism. Even though their towns were literally bombed if they dared get too successful. Nope, we have to help 36 white people each time we help 1 Romulan." Do you see why that sounds racist?


You have to resort to science fiction references to obscure the fact that middle-class and wealthy black people exist in this country.


>> Where are you people getting these stats? > Why is that statistic even important to you?

Your first inclination when someone ask for the source of the statistic you cite is to ask why it's important?

Do you expect anyone to take your argument seriously after doing that?


https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2022/demo/income-poverty/...

You may be thinking of poverty rates or proportional percentages if you think the above is untrue. The data is there for you to manipulate for your purposes as you wish, though.


It is ambiguous as written, and false by one interpretation but true by the other.

True: There are more white people in poverty (~5.5% of population) than black people [in poverty (~2.5%)] in the US.

False: There are more white people in poverty (~5.5%) than black people [in or out of poverty (~13.6%)] in the US.


To be clear, I meant "Yet there are more white people in poverty than black people in poverty in the US."





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