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My ask would be to get rid of the need for conda all together.

Conda obviously offers a lot of value in sharing hairy compiled packages, but it does not play well with anything else. None of available the tooling really works with both conda and pip. It fragments the already lousy packaging story.




other than an occasional pkg conflict, we've found conda and pip to work pretty well together (defining pip dependencies in the conda env) -- across a lot of different python envs




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