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Do you use Android?

Edit: why the downvotes? It is a valid question.



I use de-Googled Lineage. I've been thinking about switching to /e/os on my next devices.

My carrier still knows where I am, but Google does not. They might get a subtle hint if I connect to wifi.

My default browser is Bromite, configured to open everything incognito by default.



What is the difference between Lineage and /e/os? Both seem to be a de-Google Android?

I've tried Lineage before but it simply stopped working with some apps.


The /e/os distribution bundles MicroG, which Lineage has flatly refused to consider.

MicroG pretends to be Google Mobile Services, allowing more apps to run. It requires signature-spoofing, which is a major architectural change to Android.


/e/os does not have good reputation. Why not IodéOS?


I was not aware of this distribution. Thanks, I'll look it over.

This gives me pause:

"The source for the ROM is not publicly available, and proprietary apps are included."


/e/os store is full of proprietary aps with uknown sources.

All apps are optionable to install or not in IodéOS. Only source code that is closed is their inbuild adblocker, which is also possible to uninstall.


Won't your carrier have some data-sharing agreement with Google or an intermediary/subsidiary/associated third party?


There is absolutely no reassurance of any privacy any more. Several VPN providers have been caught for leaking data to corporations over time as well. There are too many points where any software can be compromised, e.g. the APIs and libraries required by any application, to ensure proper privacy.

It's wiretapping conducted on everyone using devices they purchased by private companies (that uphold no responsibility for proper use or securing the data) without any justifiable cause... God help you these days if you do warrant a wire tap, but at least the Government is usually a bit more secure and regulated concerning storage and use of that data.


The carrier's 100% sell the data


My understanding is that Google sells targeted advertising, not dossiers or personal data. Is that incorrect?


Sort of.

You can use Google to push targeted messaging to people based on the dossiers you collect.

They don’t sell the dossier, but they can leverage it. In many cases they can make inferences without the dossier. For example, you can target anti-opioid or anti-extremist materials at people identified as risks.

For example, you can target every pregnant woman in a geography and score her risk of giving birth to a child with an opioid addiction. That child will cost a health insurer ~$2M, so targeted ads that convert to intervention are very high value.

Where it gets weird is you can reverse engineer the dossier at scale. You can target very specific conditions without google “selling” that data to you. If you’re a 50 year old male searching for divorce attorneys who moved 6 times, the context of searching for “pain killers” or “target range” may have a different context than if you’re an 18 year old athlete booking a cabin in rural Maine.


I didn't downvote but it could be because you provided no context to your question.


I thought the context (parent comment) was enough. Parent is concerned to the point of leaving the phone before going to the doctor. It is well-known that Android (the non-de-Googled version) actively tracks your location [1].

[1]: https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a138190...




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