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Well Apple is going to be forced anyway, the EU's Digital Markets Act will be enforced soon.

And fines are up to 20% of global revenue.




As an iPhone user I do not like EU dictating how Apple software should work at all. The same with chargers as well.

Sure we can all have a discussion about how it should work - but having bureaucrats decide is the worst idea ever.


There's such a thing as overregulation, but when industry fails to act in an upstanding manner they are playing chicken with regulators. Here's the result. The way to avoid this is create an industry body to develop a standard and 'regulate' themselves. It looks bad when you do that, then also flaunt the standard for greater profit/market position.


As much as I agree with this in principle, there is absolutely no denying that Apple is abusing their power when it comes to consumer lock-in.

I find it very hard to argue against regulation which is only meant to make devices more interoperable. USB-C for charging is mature enough at this point that it seems reasonable to declare it THE charging port.

An interesting - partially ironic - observation here, is that Apple actually designed the reversible USB-C connector and submitted it to the USB-IF - a team of bureaucrats. Bureaucrats, who of course previously were responsible for blunders such as micro-USB-B 3.0, and more recently, the ambiguous shitshow that is the current state of the USB spec.

I wholeheartedly believe that Apple is such a design-driven company that they would actually engage with regulators again (gasp, even the EU), if they were to come up with a better connector design down the road. Everybody wins.


> but having bureaucrats decide is the worst idea ever

I agree wholeheartedly, but what's the alternative? The so-called "free market" (not that such a thing actually exists) clearly has not solved this problem for us.


It's a problem for you only because you want to use iMessage. iMessage is about as far from a monopoly as you can get.


Who else 'sells' imessage ?


So every app is a monopoly now? This is getting ridiculous.


Signal


Explain how please.


I couldn’t agree more. I like the walled garden. I don’t care if some messages are green. If I wanted to have granular control over everything, I’d buy an Android phone. I really struggle to see why some regulatory body should be able to force a company to alter their products unless it’s something that impacts customer safety. There are plenty of alternatives in the market.

I suspect most iPhone users are of a similar opinion or no opinion at all. Sure, here on HN you can find plenty of strong opinions, but the average iPhone user doesn’t care and is happy with the ecosystem and hardware.


Is iMessage a "Number-independent interpersonal communication services (e.g., messengers)"?

It's a messenger but it's based on phone numbers AFAIK--unlike something like WhatsApp.


You can sign up and use an email for iMessage through wifi


Ah. I've only used it as a default SMS alternative on Apple devices including iPhone.


It is, I use it from my Mac Mini without owing an iPhone.




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