It's not necessarily being dismissive, it's just going to be uncomfortable for some of the people in the audience. Let's assume the audience is mostly heterosexual males. So a women or homosexual male would be a minority. A woman or homosexual male may not want to be part of a discussion that involves sex when around a group of heterosexual men they do not know. They're not offended by the jokes, it's just that there is now an implied topic that they don't want to discuss with these people.
If it was the same audience, same content, but a woman presenter, do you think more of the men in the audience would be uncomfortable? Do you think the women in the audience would feel somewhat more comfortable?
To be more specific, do you think this talk could fairly be interpreted as: maybe the Mac community doesn’t want people like me to be comfortable? Perhaps they would rather keep this a boy’s club forever, and it’s simply irritating when people like me disrupt that. Because I think that's a pretty unfair thing to accuse the presenter of.
Again, I don't think that's the main issue. The main issue is bringing up an unnecessary topic that a minority will be uncomfortable about given the rest of the audience. The divisiveness, the feeling of "I don't feel welcome here" is a result of that. Whether or not the presenter intended that to be the case is not the question.
Whether the speaker intended it is exactly what she's wondering in that quote.
Also, being a heterosexual guy, I would have avoided or walked out of this talk anyway. So I guess I'm just having a hard time telling how much that feeling would change if I were a "minority", because apparently I would have the same reaction either way.
You need to compare with a female presenter, audience with a vast female majority and jokes meant for women -> I think men in the audience would be uncomfortable.
Yeah but what I'm asking is whether the jokes were "meant for men" or in any way excluded, belittled, or demeaned women. It looks like the talk was intended for a broad audience, not just a subset of the community.
