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> did Trump win in 2016 by fraud too?

This is the consensus opinion among Democrats.

> Bush in 2000?

This is the consensus opinion among Democrats.

> Doesn’t that seem like a more likely situation where fraud would carry the day?

It now seems like this is your opinion. So 100% of elections since 2000 where the opposition won are bitterly contested as illegitimate by party partisans. I'm starting to think these political parties might be the problem.




It’s not my opinion. But isn’t it objectively true that the national popular vote is much harder to fake than a few hundred votes in a specific state? That’s just the nature of organizing the effort.

So if all US elections are unreliable, surely the 2000 one is more suspect than the 2020 one.


> > did Trump win in 2016 by fraud too?

> This is the consensus opinion among Democrats.

This doesn't jibe with the facts: https://news.gallup.com/poll/197441/accept-trump-legitimate-... (24% believed Trump was illegitimate)

> > Bush in 2000?

> This is the consensus opinion among Democrats.

This also doesn't match the facts: https://news.gallup.com/poll/2188/black-americans-feel-cheat... (31%)


Blah blah

"Nearly one third..."

So, by rough equivalency the same amount of either Republicans OR Democrats belive in stolen elections.

The portrayal of either party by the other is ridiculous. Clearly it is both a common and non-partisan belief. Safely put, one in three United States Statesians don't believe in the legitimacy of elections they don't win.


Aside from the sibling comment's point, keep in mind that the 2000 election was actually decided by a court case. Regardless of how you judge this fact personally, it is at the very least bound to distort survey responses.


> So, by rough equivalency the same amount of either Republicans OR Democrats belive in stolen elections.

"one-third of Americans still believe the 2020 presidential election was stolen."

Which is a lot higher than one third of Democrats believing that about the other things you brought up.


Depending on the poll, 60-75% of Republicans think the 2020 election was stolen.




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