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> I wouldn't expect a piece of the bureaucratic establishment such as yourself

Good Lord, presumptions much?

I said I was DPO in my last job. I was also the main sysadmin, and as my main role a website developer. This was a company of 10 people including the bosses. Someone had to take on the role.

> It must take a special kind of asshole to say this.

It must take a special kind of asshole to say that, to someone you haven't met and know nothing about.

> but you don't want to say it explicitly here since it makes you look bad. Gotcha.

Not really; I've never evaluated AWS for compliance. The reason I didn't say that is because it's not something I know about. We didn't use AWS; I've used it, but in someone else's coding shop, where AWS compliance wasn't my concern.

May I suggest that you're a bit hasty with words like "clown", "asshole", "weasel" and "gotcha"?

> And of course, the European people elected you their lord and savior to tell businesses which tech stacks they pick and choose because of your interpretation of arbitrary laws. See the problem here yet?

How are things over there in Conclusions, where you seem to have jumped? I have never told anyone what tech stack they should use.

> THE LEGISLATURE CANNOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST A SINGLE ENTITY THIS WAY.

Where in the GDPR is GA mentioned? Or AWS, for that matter?

For the sake of clarity, no legislature had anything to do with the GDPR; it was promulgated by the European Commission, an important part of the EU bureaucracy, and I have never worked for any part of the EU bureaucracy. In fact, I no longer even live in the EU.

> A weasel through and through. What else did i expect from someone in your position?

And what position is it, that you think I occupy? FTR, I'm a retired software developer. The position I occupy is sitting in an armchair.

> So, illegal abuse of power by Government to target a company is fine by you, Mr. DPO ?

Nope. In fact I'm also against legal abuse of power, whether by government or anyone else.

You seem to be very angry; perhaps social media is not for you.




The fact that you still can’t bring yourself to admit here what you did in another comment says more than I ever could.

ie, that any small or big business inadvertently sending even an IP address that isn’t even stored to touch a US based resource in something as innocuous as AWS.

Seeing your other recent comment here, it seems you’re just a moron with a nationalistic tendency to support your countrymen (and women). Oh well, objectivity dies and future generations on your continent suffer. Who cares, right? You’re retired.


If it's inadvertent, then they can remedy the error once they've been notified.

If an IP address is sent to the USA, then whether it's stored or not ceases to be a matter that European courts can oversee. Since US courts and European courts are not in accord on these matters, Europeans are faced with either banning the export of IP addresses to the USA, or giving up on legislating privacy at all. We chose the former.

> it seems you’re just a moron with a nationalistic tendency

Oh, more name-calling, and more conclusions jumped to. If you can't make an argument, make a personal insult, and decorate it with insulting epithets based on nothing at all.

> future generations on your continent suffer

Ah, you're not from these parts! I thought not. But in the light of that fact, it's our concern, not yours, right? So why do you get SO angry about European law? If you want to trade in Europe, you have to comply with European regulations. Same wherever you want to trade.

I don't approve of the US trade environment. For example, about half the world is under US trade sanctions; but you don't get me marching around accusing USAians of being morons, weazels, assholes, and clowns.

Perhaps the truth is that it is you that is the nationalist?


"remedy the error"? Care to put that in a sentence like "Remedy the error of using the internet"

You expect a business that's invested in the AWS stack to up and move overnight because some illiterate morons in Brussels decided that?


I don't care much what decisions random businesses make.

It has been my view for a long time that entrusting your infrastructure to the tender mercies of a firm like Amazon is reckless. Here we have a situation where the legal environment has changed; AWS hasn't changed to match; so those companies that chose to rely on a 3rd-party infrastructure provider appear to have made a mistake.

If I had been advising one of those companies, I would have advised them to bring critical infrastructure in-house. But there might have been other options, like using Europe-based infrastructure providers.

I've never been involved with budgets and so on. It's not my concern how much different solutions cost. I just think the principals of companies have a responsibility to avoid third-party risk - which is what you have, if you rely on a third-party for critical company infrastructure.

That's why I was able to persuade my employers to bring their email service in-house. It worked, and the bosses were pleased with the improved service and reliability. We also constructed our own in-house build and deployment train; that worked very nicely too.

Maybe the cost-benefits vary according to the type and size of business. I'm not a researcher, and I only know about the things I've looked into. But my guess is that AWS works well for companies that are after a quick buck (e.g. an IPO).




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