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I think the wind down of Google Labs and several small Google products, APIs, etc is definitely reflective of that advice. Very cool to know where they might have gotten the inspiration to do that.



Motorola's acquisition will go down in history as one of the top 5 dumbest business decisions of all time. I won't be surprised if Larry Page is replaced as CEO within 3-5 years.


Man, I have a proposal for you: if you manage to not troll the website with anything anti-Google or pro-Apple for a month, I'll pay your next year of Apple developer membership, ok?


I posted this on another thread but I think it's worth repeating. Here's why Larry Page is doing poor job.

A company's Return on Invested Capital is the ultimate measure of a company's valuation. it's not the PE, EPS, etc. Basically, ROIC is a measure of how efficient a company is in using its capital to generate returns. Warren Buffet uses ROIC to evaluate companies. Let's compare Apple and Google's ROIC. Apple's return on invested capital is 30.4% with a 5-year average of 26.1% despite Apple having lower gross profit margins compared to Google. a 30.4% ROIC is amazingly high for a "hardware company". Google's return on invested capital is only 18.3% with 5 year aveage of 17.2%. Why?

Different types of growth earn different degrees of return so not all growth is equally value-creating. Growth strategies based on organic new product development (ie. iPod, iPhone, iPad, iMac, etc.) frequently have the highest returns because they dont require much new capital. Apple can add new products to their existing factory lines and distribution systems, without much capital expenditure. The investments to produce new products are not all required at once. If preliminary results are not promising, future investments can be scaled back or canceled. Contrast this with Google's growth strategy of acquiring companies (Motorola, Youtube, Android, Doubleclick, etc.). Acquisitions require that the entire investment be made up front. The amount of up-front payment reflects the expected cash flows from the target company plus a premium to stave off other bidders. So even if Google can improve the target company enough to generate an attractive ROIC, the rate of return is typically only a small amount higher than its cost of capital. Factor in the additional traffic acquisition costs and costs of running hundreds of thousands of servers to support Google search, Youtube, Blogspot, GMail, etc. and you'll see why Google's return on invested capital is much lower compared to Apple. Google has a habit of wasting money on money-losing initiatives with low ROIC (Google's $280-million solar power initiative, self driving cars, etc.). Wall Street perceives the $12.5 Billion Moto acquisition as an expensive and inefficient use of capital that will further dilute the company's ROIC. Motorola's acquisition does not create or add value to Google. it actually destroys value, at least until Google recoups the $12.5 Billion acquisition cost. This is the reason why Apple is the most valuable company in the world. Meanwhile, Google's market cap's been stuck in the $170-$200B range for a couple of years now.

Here's the number one rule of conservation of value: anything that doesn't increase cash flows doesn't create value.


  >> I posted this on another thread but I think it's worth repeating.
No, it's not worth repeating. You couldn't manage to hold 30 minutes without controlling yourself, let alone 30 days.

No soup for you!


Facebook did not have cash flow for quite some time and it isn't like they didn't create some value during that period.

Your "ultimate measure" is questionable. It doesn't say whether a company is heading up or down in the sense of mindshare. You can have all the profits in the world and be heading down the drain (yahoo did this).

And mindshare is the only thing the supergiants (google, apple, amazon, facebook) really fight for.


So now who's trolling? got anything intelligent to say?


Right now, the only thing that comes is more wise than intelligent: silence is golden.

Seriously, though: relax a little bit. You are still reasonably new to the site and need to get a better grasp of the rules.

For instance, you were so quick to try to respond to me that you couldn't wait for the system's "cool-off" period between responses. If you waited some 10 minutes, you would see a "reply" link under my answer, instead of forcing a break in the thread.

Or better yet: if you had taken the cool-off time, perhaps you would be able to realize that this discussion of ours is pointless, and that this back-and-forth only creates more noise.

This will be my last message on the matter. I hope you already had yours as well.


You called me a troll yet you didnt address a single thing I said. I'm waiting for your reply.




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