EDIT: You're right I did in fact say victims of torture are liars, at least it can be read that way! Wow, didn't realize it, didn't intend it. So I don't know what he was saying to the others, but he set up many many scams like talking really loud on his cell about "an opportunity going to waste" when we met at Metro el Golf staircase, trying to get me to ask on my own accord what that opportunity was, but I had no curiosity for it. So helping me with torture, I fell for it a bit, but it was something I could not fail to want.
So honest John means many things, but basically it's hard to get someone to engage in a scam without engaging greed. Now with the tortured that's disgusting, it's not greed but he verbally claimed a government payout to the tortured--a pension--ten times higher than the real amount. It's like 230.000 CLP whereas he claimed like 2.200.000[1]. And that's designed to get them to pay him something, very difficult money for a torture victim to earn because their careers are ruined as part of the torture, to keep them down. The torturers advise to steal and impoverish them, never pay back debts. Torture involves bankrupting the victim, it's property crime too. Coerce signatures of course, give up deeds, give up property, give up a car in one case, betray people, betray yourself.
But then the torturer tells you the solution is to get a job. Try to get one with that ruined resume though! "Where did you work in April 2009? No good answer? No hire!"
[1] Morally that's 10x as much, so he didn't actually quote 10x as much because that's too disgusting, too easy to put that in a newspaper headline, it burns too much. But that's how he got the number, multiply it by ten, and then subtract a meaningless amount strictly in order to reduce hatred against him, which he also did with a nonprofit called Sin Odio, Without Hatred, which was linked to his claims of being a human rights lawyer.
My torturers did this too: I was under amnestic drugs from March 29, with a few days on at the beginning, but in total 29 days under amnestics, meaning they give you pills as soon as you awake, all day long, and then you think tomorrow is today, next week is this week, next month is this month. Literally motivating the question, "what year is it?!" Like in time travel movies. But it was less than a month because that's bad PR, saying you tortured someone for a whole month, so they say 29 days, so that I have to say "almost a month" when morally the intention was a full month, minus some meaningless amount to take away the PR sting. Water down the accusation, but if it weren't for the intent to water down the accusation, it would have absolutely been a month! A lunar month, though. And so the reason is they do this to women too, but they menstruate so they know if they've gotten roofied for weeks, unless you shoot the moon, 24/7 amnestics for an entire menstrual period, 29 days, they end up at the same part of their cycle as before the amnestics started, then it's not as obvious.
