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That’s absolutely right.

But as the article itself says, we don’t know if this is the start of some trend or if this is a never previously observed fluke.

Climate change is about regression to a mean that is itself higher than the previous mean. But with or without human contribution, weather events are still going to regress to a mean.




> But as the article itself says, we don’t know if this is the start of some trend or if this is a never previously observed fluke.

...That's not how statistics works.

A 2 sigma deviation can be a never previously observed fluke. A 5 sigma variation ... that means that the model is wrong. Observing a 5 sigma variation means that you need to stop, and consider why your model is incorrect.

> Climate change is about regression to a mean that is itself higher than the previous mean.

That's what we've been assuming, but this result upends that assumption.

We talk about a new mean that's 5F higher than the old mean. But an event that's 70F higher than the current mean is also 65F above the the 'new' mean. And that throws out the possibility what we're talking about is a new mean that's higher than the old mean with the same standard deviation.

The brave new world we're walking into doesn't just have a higher average temperature, it also has a significantly higher standard deviation.

And this is potentially catastrophic. If Antarctica is, on average, 5F warmer, but is not prone to significant deviations, then Antarctica stays frozen. This is our old model; maybe the new extremes are a little bit more extreme, but Antarctica is still so cold and the rare high temperature events are mild enough that it's still gonna be super cold, and all the ice that's held up in the Antarctic ice sheets stay there. But if we have wild swings like this one, then our old models are quite simply wrong. We now need to start to consider models where Antarctica melts, and now we need to consider a 190 foot increase in sea level over the next century.

AFAIK that means that a majority of Earth's population will be displaced. NYC, London, Tokyo, Florida, Rio, all gone.


I agree that if you don't like getting 5 sigma events against your model's forecast, sure, change your model.

But I'm curious whether the model in question is even looking at 5-day events, or more at monthly/annual/decadal averages. This may not be 5 sigma at all at those timescales.

And, it sure looks like it's not headed to a new mean 5 degrees Fahrenheit higher: https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/antarctica/vostok-statio...

Please don't get me wrong. Human-generated greenhouse gas emission increase and carbonization of the planet's atmosphere are big problems, that will contribute to overall global temperature average rises. It's just that this is not that.

This is more like when the CPU spikes momentarily by +50% on your production observability monitors. Panicky teams might react to it. Mature teams might see it as transient cloud (heh) behavior and know not to even bother alerting. Immature teams will tune it out as alert fatigue.

We don't want to give the whole planet alert fatigue about extreme weather events. We want to focus on reducing the long run change to global average temperature.


We at least have day-to-day written history for thousands of years, in human population zones. We have oral beyond that.

We barely have 30 or 40 for a place like antartica.

We can detect gross climate, and not any real weather in fossils.

For example, no fossil record would capture a chinook, a common occurance in Alberta.

https://cwf.ca/research/publications/five-facts-about-chinoo...

In 1962, Pincher Creek saw record temperature rise of 41 °C from -19 to 22 °C in just an hour.

One hour!

And of course, we have only been monitoring chinooks with detail for maybe a 150 years.


It is however fairly predicable that folks will comment on unusual (to them) weather behaviour[0]. First thought - "I guess Leo has never experienced a chinook". Go to school when it's -25°C; go home for lunch at +5°C [1].

[0] https://calgaryherald.com/entertainment/celebrity/that-awkwa...

[1] circa mid 60s




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