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Talk about utilizing your monopoly position (in search) to take unfair advantage in other areas (browser) and you won't get a better example than this one.

I can't tell if this is a joke. You know why IE user base is so high, right? Like, because of a better example than this one?


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You don't know what a monopoly is. It isn't what you think it is, the currently biggest player in a market.


I'm an avid Firefox user, too, but I'm glad to see this happen. The competition has made Firefox better, faster.


That's a good point. I just hope FF survives the squeeze from IE and Chrome.


It's not the IE/Chrome squeeze I'm concerned about. Webkit(Safari, Silk, Chrome) and IE are the only players on their mobile platforms, that's what makes me sad. FF on Android is so far behind webkit, I wonder if they will ever catch up, or rather, if they should even try.


I've liked FF, but yesterday I officially switched to Chrome. I don't think it's going to be a perfectly smooth switch, but I felt I had no choice.

The stability of FF has been dismal lately. This is largely a memory issue: my system starts to bog down if I leave FF running too long, so I have to restart it at least once a day. But more recently, it hasn't been able to survive more than a couple of hours. It will randomly "tear off" a tab, and then freeze itself using 100% of one CPU core, and must be killed. I assume this is a badly-behaved extension, since I haven't heard the world screaming about it, but I haven't been able to determine which one it is.


It must be an extension, especially given the recent release of Firefox 7 and its vastly improved long-term memory usage situation.

Anecdotally, I routinely have around 100 tabs open and Firefox runs for days on end, if not weeks. It only gets closed for OS updates requiring a restart.


Oddly, I also recently switched to chrome. Firefox started randomly freezing up. Sadly, it looks like some corner-cases have slipped through the FF quality control now that they are releasing faster.

I notice that Firefox 7 has gone to 7.01 today. What's changed? It doesn't seem to have helped me.


7.0.1 was just a small change to fix an issue where Add-ons would disappear from the Add-on list after an update: http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/09/28/issue-discovered-w...


It must be your extensions. Disable all extensions and try FF.

I use FF all the time with 10s of tabs open, and I don't have any issues with stability. My FF window is open for days and some time for weeks.


Agreed.. I restart FF maybe once a week and most of the time it's sitting open with 10-15 tabs. If you're having stability issues with FF it's a plugin IMO.


I'm sure it is an extension. The thing is, I can't easily figure out which one. Since it takes a couple of hours for the problem to occur, it's too much of a big deal to try a binary search of all extensions to figure it out.

Compare to Chrome, which has its own task manager, which shows CPU and RAM usage of each extension.


I remember reading that FF now has something similar. It might be in the nightly or a plugin or something though. Unfortunately I can't find it now :( Sorry


in what way is it unfair? if you owned a popular website, wouldn't you use it to promote your products?


Google has a near monopoly in search. It's the same as when Microsoft used its monopoly to kill Netscape in the 90s.


Isn't a monopoly when you sell a product no one else is able to (natural monopoly) or allowed to (legislated monopoly) sell?

What's preventing people from using other search engines?

Microsoft's monopoly was based on exclusive contracts with PC makers, which made it extremely difficult to buy a PC without paying the "Microsoft tax".


Firefox is broken. It hasn't been stable since 3.x. I've literally been forced, unhappily, to migrate to Chrome. I love FF and want to use it, but it hangs about every 15 minutes.


had the same problem when my FF was 30% browser and 70% extensions


> I like FF and sad to see FF user base going down.

I like HN and am sad to see HN user base going down because the comments are getting dumber and dumber. Sorry you just won the dumbest-comment-of-the-week award.




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