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As an American, I'd rather have a foreign actor spying on me than my own government. The foreign actor has no jurisdiction over me.



Foreign actor doesn't have to abide by the Fourth Amendment either. They can just show the US whatever they want without a warrant.


The US would still be required to abide by the Fourth Amendment though.



> The US would still be required to abide by the Fourth Amendment though.

Only directly. The Five Eyes and other 'partners' routinely share intelligence with each other that their counterparts would face barriers to collecting.


So why am I worried about China again?


I don't know, there are many possible answers. Why ARE you worried about China?


> The foreign actor has no jurisdiction over me.

You can be subjected to blackmail and/or other hostile actions from a foreign jurisdiction.


Is that more likely than blackmail and/or hostile actions from home jurisdiction?


I don't know what the likelihoods of either are but if I had to guess I would say that yes, hostile third countries are more dangerous than my own country.

Also, I consider that I would have more recourse against an actor from my own jurisdiction, I think you have pretty much zero recourse against the government of a hostile third country.


I don't trust even my own government. I'm not *more* worried about China messing with me. The NSA has more info on me that could potentially be used against me than Huawei. And I've never once seen a situation where the NSA digs data out of their vault to help exonerate an American on trial.


You haven't thought this one through my friend.


We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30513500.


Wait until you want to do some tourism




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