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> Do you have any international sources on this?

Sources on what? What did you disagree with?

> I'm open to the idea that B'Tselem are unreliable

You linked an article from organization B'Tselem claiming Israel is an Apartheid state.

I dont like the "angle of their post" to use your words.

> note they're essentially from a rival Israeli political outlook

Yes, my that's my point. B'Tselem is a political organization, simply linking to their political rant is not helpful. Unless you want to debate out what you found so convincing that B'Tselem said that PROVES Israel is an "apartheid" state this conversation is going nowhere. I cannot prove a negative. You are insuating Israel is an apartheid state, it's a bold claim with no facts. You have to have concrete reasoning to assert so, I don't have to scrum up some "international sourced" articles to shoot down propaganda from B'Tselem.




I can see I've given some offence and would like to reiterate that's not my intention. I'd continue asking questions as I remain fairly curious, but will pick another time and place. Thank you for responding, and again, apologies for any offence caused.


No offense taken, I was simply responding to you and clarified the conversation.

Whatever emotions you perceived me to have were in your head.

Possibly it was the emphasis on "proves", which was simply an emphasis with the goal of highlighting you need to prove Israel is an apartheid state if you claim as such.




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