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Yes, Even I love to code.

But just because true hearted altruistic people like you exist. It doesn't mean I must replicate the same. I'm motivated by many other factors apart from money. But just because that is the case, I feel no reason to settle down for less than what I deserve.

And just like you mentioned I want my salary to be just fair. Just pay me for my work. That's all I'm asking. And is that a unjust demand?




"what I deserve"?

Your demand is not unjust, it's meaningless. This is not some god-given court that determines what you "deserve".

You say that you are motivated by money and other factors. So then the question is: If job A pays x and gives you the other factors that you say motivate you, and job B pays y but gives you none of those other factors, what is the minimum ratio of x/y for you to take job A over B? If you say 1.0, then no, those other factors do not matter to you. If it's <1.0, then why is it not "fair" for the job A to pay that?


>>>This is not some god-given court that determines what you "deserve".

Well in that case let karma decide for itself.

Now lets come to what you are talking about. I guess you didn't understand me. I was asking why is it that employers for people under the same conditions pay the same money for different work delivered?

What you are saying is true, but that is a totally different question in itself. What you saying is to consider a trade off between other factors and money in two different setup and is perfectly acceptable.

But that's not what we are debating here. We are debating why some who is doing a lot more extra is getting paid the same as some who isn't doing all that. In that case I don't see any reason why the first person shouldn't make extra.

I would go to an extent to say he doesn't just deserve but has the right to make that something extra.


You are assuming there's different work delivered. The null hypothesis has to be that there is the same work delivered, unless there's evidence to the contrary. And it's clear getting unbiased such evidence is difficult, at best. Hence, a reasonable baseline is same pay.

Note that they have different levels of positions, so "the same" is only valid within a level. If you are so awesomely skilled and productive, presumably you will have a higher-level position.

You are focusing on one aspect to the detriment of others. If you have individual (i.e., arbitrary) salaries that lead to people who are better negotiators getting higher salaries for reasons that have "nothing* to so with work delivered, how can you say that is fair.

The world is a big optimization problem, and in my opinion the policy described in this post does a pretty good job at that optimization.


I'm all for fair. I just think incentive systems are a bad approach to that for programmers.




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