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May be its time is just over? I mean that the time of personal CMS or blogs or just small personal sites is definitely over.

For Drupal - they got lost momentum, lost a lot of active developers, lost fans, lost community. The game, when everyone wants his own site in the net, is over. Enjoy your FB page. ^_^

I think you can see the same situation of stagnation in Wordpress also, and, I hope, finally, in PHP world in general. ^_^




Not at all. The issues described in the linked post have arisen _because_ the community has grown so much and so fast over the past few years.


Community of whom? Active developers or passive users? Development and usage of a product are not the same thing. ^_^

Yes, it has grown, and now it is going flat. Try to visualize the trend - imagine a bell curve (the only type of curve hackers know) and point out where the current time stamp is - on a growing or falling slope? ^_^

OK, to look a little bit more professional: doing a major rewrite of already mature project is a tricky thing (look what a terrible mess Gnome3 is or a recent Ubuntu), because users are passive and tend to use what they call a stable versions.

We can see the same situation with Python3 (although it has real improvements and much less buggy) and with ruby19, where the Rails guys are pushing it as hard as they can, but inert users still want 1.8.

So, users are happy with drupal6 and variety of third-party modules, while independent developers are losing their interest.


Facts, not baseless opinions, please. For example: http://drupal.org/project/usage/drupal

Clearly shows both Drupal 7 usage (and consequently Drupal usage as a whole) continuing to increase at a steady, fast rate.


  cooper@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache search drupal
  dh-make-drupal - Create Debian packages from Drupal modules and themes
  drivel - Blogging client for the GNOME desktop
  drupal6 - fully-featured content management framework
  drupal6-mod-addtoany - addtoany module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-cck - cck module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-commentrss - commentrss modules for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-contemplate - contemplate module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-filefield - filefield module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-i18n - i18n module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-imageapi - imageapi module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-imagecache - imagecache module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-imagecache-actions - imagecache_actions module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-imagefield - imagefield module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-imagefield-assist - imagefield_assist module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-inline - inline module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-ldap-integration - ldap_integration module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-lightbox2 - lightbox2 module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-masquerade - masquerade module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-openid-provider - openid_provider modules for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-pingback - pingback modules for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-site-verify - site_verify module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-tagadelic - tagadelic module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-trackback - trackback module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-views - views modules for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-views-charts - views_charts modules for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-views-groupby - views_groupby modules for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-xmlsitemap - xmlsitemap module for Drupal 6
  drupal6-mod-xrds-simple - xrds_simple modules for Drupal 6
  drupal6-thm-arthemia - arthemia theme for Drupal 6
  drupal6-trans-ru - Russian translation for Drupal 6
  drush - command line shell and Unix scripting interface for Drupal
This is from Ubuntu 11.10. In Fedora 16 they have a drupal7 package, but most of the pre-packaged modules are for drupal6.


That is not useful information. It only indicates that someone with package commit privileges decided to package Drupal 6 for Ubuntu 11.10. It doesn't mean anything about usage, developers, community, etc.

To put this into perspective, Debian once had a Webmin package in the distant past (about 10 years ago)...at a time when we had far less than a million new downloads per year (might have even been in the low hundreds of thousands). We're currently at about 3 million new downloads a year, and growing every year, and there is no Ubuntu or Fedora package for Webmin.

All you can assert based on a lack of packages in the standard OS repo is that there is a lack of packages in the standard OS repo.


Well considering that there are about 12,000 projects hosted on Drupal.org and that it has it's own packaging system this is a pretty pointless example. I've never met anyone using apt to install PHP applications. Given the ways that apt usually installs a PHP app, I'm not really surprised either.




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