"I will clear myself up: people should be able to steal and shoplift as much as they want, there is no doubt in my mind that any shoplifter is the victim of far more injustice than anything they could ever accomplish themselves."
This has to be a troll, right? I like how you assumed the person was privileged, got corrected and then doubled down like this.
Clearly the folks doing the shop lifting are on the lower end of the economic spectrum. This does not give them the right to steal. Every society in history has had rules against theft. We want to live in a society where we don't have to bolt everything down to the ground and cover it in chains/fences.
Not every store is a faceless evil mega corp. The small timers are getting hurt by these flash mob robberies as well. Small stores in Oakland are getting hit multiple times.
I know somebody that sold shoes at a flea market. A very humble business. Somebody followed him home one night and stole his truck filled with $20k of shoes. This was a massive financial setback for him. Do you think the people that stole his truck has the right to take his livelihood away from him? Actually don't even bother answering....
When discussing these things, who are you angry at? Other than me now lol. Like even if the numbers that this article is calling into question were true, tell me what the precise crisis is? Is it simply, as you all seem to be implying, a moral crisis? Or is it a crisis or proper determents, of punishment?
I'll grant you I'm crazy for this, but I simply dont understand this implicit worldview that the primary problem in these matters is so many different bad actors; the moral conceit that some people are just "bad" and will steal, they were born and/or raised that way, and the most we can hope for is to keep them at bay.
I simply do not subscribe to that belief about people, I am not saying these things are free from injustices large and small. I just dont think its fruitful to think about it how you seem to be. We should try and put it all in the context it is happening in, not within trans-historical "society".
I dont expect you to agree, or to make many friends, but at least I don't live in a world full of evil people without explanation, and the only thing to do is find them and punish them.
This has to be a troll, right? I like how you assumed the person was privileged, got corrected and then doubled down like this.
Clearly the folks doing the shop lifting are on the lower end of the economic spectrum. This does not give them the right to steal. Every society in history has had rules against theft. We want to live in a society where we don't have to bolt everything down to the ground and cover it in chains/fences.
Not every store is a faceless evil mega corp. The small timers are getting hurt by these flash mob robberies as well. Small stores in Oakland are getting hit multiple times.
I know somebody that sold shoes at a flea market. A very humble business. Somebody followed him home one night and stole his truck filled with $20k of shoes. This was a massive financial setback for him. Do you think the people that stole his truck has the right to take his livelihood away from him? Actually don't even bother answering....