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There is absolutely no way this has better capabilities than Tesla.

It may indeed have more sensors, but that doesn't mean it's more sophisticated.




That might be true, but as opposed to Tesla, Mercedes is willing to take on the liability if something happens while the system is online.

If I'm not mistaken the law requires a 10 second take over period before it disengages.

For the moment Tesla can't or won't do the same. Not in Germany, Not in America. Nowhere.

In the end we will see who is better (it might be Tesla, or another company, or all of them in close succession).

But right now Tesla is saying and implying a lot of things but still requires the driver to be in full control at any moment (wink-wink nudge-nudge), while Mercedes decided that there are situation where they got this.


You can take the non beta FSD onto a highway right now and it’ll operate at a lvl3-4 level. Tesla just don’t want to take the liability yet.

But Tesla insurance, safety score and FSD beta will likely change that


I don't doubt that their technology is able to do that.

I just think taking on liability is a big deal. Probably several lawyers at MB needed some fresh air when they were asked to formalize this policy.

Tesla obviously aims for an all or nothing approach. It's not before a solid level 4 that they want to take this leap.

I wonder whether the market (and regulators) will force their hand before they are good and ready.


On the contrary, Tesla are in the insurance game directly, they are gearing themselves up to be a liability taking machine.

Where as Daimler are simply limiting liability through engineering and constraints.


> There is absolutely no way this has better capabilities than Tesla.

Why would there be absolutely no way? People keep forgetting that Tesla is actually a small newcomer in the automotive sector.

They were ahead of the peak because established automotive companies slept on the market, but that does not mean these behemoths just gonna keep sleeping on it and leave it to Tesla without even trying to compete.

Expect to see more of this happening over the next decade, these companies might be slow to adapt, but once they get momentum behind their mass it will be very difficult for Tesla to keep up with them.


Tesla is a joke / scam


Tesla achieved their mission of accelerating the worlds transition to sustainable energy.

Unfortunately Tesla will be dead in that future.

It’s already happening in California. Young FAANG engineers respect Teslas less, compared to 5 years ago. And a higher % of techies are considering Audi, BMW, and Porsche EVs.


Could you go into detail what you mean by "respect Tesla less" in that context?

It seems to me that we are looking at a maturing market where several brands have released products which are quite good.

Judging by the numbers Tesla is doing extraordinarily well and is still growing strongly.

Unless one believed the Elon Musk groupy theory in which Tesla would be the only car manufacturer on the planet it's not really surprising at all.




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