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> You seem to confuse "not easily discoverable" with "doesn't exist"

From the point of users this: "information is not trivial to find right now for end users" is equal to "doesn't exist".

This is true for both clients and servers. When I asked "what if I don't want to run my own server", the very first link you provided me with was "Check the compliance of your server". Wat? I immediately closed the page, and I will never come back to it.

These things simply do not exist for anyone except hardcore geeks who are willing to figure all this out. 20 years ago when I was young I would do that. Now I will just open Telegram.

> My belief is that simply telling people to "use XMPP", and requiring them to find appropriate clients and servers is solving the problem from the wrong end. XMPP-based solutions should be attractive to people in their own right.

Yes! That's so very true.




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