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Over the years a fair number of people have contacted me through HN. Only one time did I feel like the person was trying to sell me something, all the other interactions were positive. So I'd recommend doing this.



I’m opposite. Of the ~5 times I got cold emailed based on my HN profile it was someone asking me if I’d be interested in a product of their startup.


Why is that bad? This is a startup forum at the end of the day.


It doesn’t feel like a startup forum anymore. When is the last time you’ve seen a post about improving a landing page? It’s more of a general tech forum now.


It was always an "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity" forum (at least since I was first aware of it), but it grew out of a startup incubator, so the early focus was inevitable.


No, I would also say that it definitely used to be far more focused on starting a tech startup, with tech as a sideline, now it's the opposite.

I feel the shift started happening around the time product hunt got popular, so a couple of years before you joined.


You repeated what I said with different words. We're in agreement. And my original account was from 2010. I lurked long before that.


Two days ago....

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27988065

But yeah, it got very little comments and they were mostly negative.


Oh, I missed that one. But the frontpage used to be full of posts like that.


Actually I am here for the brilliant community, comments and the content. Not even 1% of me cares about startups.


To anyone doing this; please stop. Cold-contact unsolicited outreach for sales is spam. It is not appreciated. The only thing worse than adding me to some newsletter are the ones who keep nagging when I don't reply.


I disagree with you there. There's definitely a way to do it right.

Copy-pasted templates are never appreciated, but hand-written, personalised outreach that considers the recipient's situation can go down well.


And unfortunately, people who hand write personalised outreach don't know if the recipient is like you or the parent poster.


Careful. This is getting into GDPR territory.


In what way?


Article 4-11:

> Consent of the data subject means any freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous indication of the data subject’s wishes by which he or she, by a statement or by a clear affirmative action, signifies agreement to the processing of personal data relating to him or her.

And 6-1:

> Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:

> the data subject has given consent to the processing of his or her personal data for one or more specific purposes;

So whether consent is given or not depends on what people would write in their HN bio next to their email.


I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think Googling a person's email address and contacting them in regards to something they posted on HN qualifies as "processing of personal data".


This is exactly what GDPR is for.

https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo...

> Examples of processing include:

> [..]

> sending promotional emails*;

> [..]


It's like Quora's pitches-masquerading-as-answers coming directly to you, I'd believe.


Yeah same here. I've received emails saying things like:

"I see from your hacker news comments you're interested in scaling startups, our project/product .."

Spam.


I’ve had that happen a few times. At the very least HN outreach is personalized.


Next up: personalized HN/<insert forum here> outreach as a service.


I was recently contacted about helping shaping an alternative search engine by posting one unusual page.

A few mails. They were responsive when I asked questions back.

Yes, maybe a sales pitch but I found it interesting.

Other than that a few people hqve asked me about lobste.rs invites and I generally give them after looking a few pages back in their comment history to try to verify I don't let in anyone with a trollish or hostile attitude.


Were the products somewhat relevant to your interests?


I never got any email despite having my email available on my profile.


Hello, Searchable Guy.

Just fixed that for you. :)


How did you fix it for him? Did you submit his email to a spam not?


No, they didn't.

I instead got a smiley :) and that made my day.


If you use a gmail account, how do you know when someone subs you to a spam list vs just having a gmail account? It's incredible how fast a new gmail account starts receiving spam.


I have a old Gmail account from years ago I don't use as my main account anymore. It's amazing how much spam messages it gets. I swear my main account with Fastmail receives a tiny fraction of the spam despite the address for that account being available in plain text in mailing list archives and the like.


Remember, it's a feature, not a bug. Cynic me suggests that when you register a gmail account, G autmatically sends that out to all of its ad buyers. "It's a twofer!"


Same here.

Got quite some emails from people inquiring about my services.

But as a DevRel consultant, my target client group is on HN probably quite often.




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