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That's a great writeup Justin, but it would lend you even more credibility if you mentioned the time you gave up - Kiko. The only reason I've seen cited in interviews is that Google jumped into the market and conquered it overnight. I don't believe that at all. I think if you stuck to your guns, you could kick Google calendar's ass and be successful despite the initial competitive setback, much like the great examples you give in your article.

Did you get bored of working on Kiko or were you looking for a bigger, crazier idea?




I think we could have made something happen with Kiko if we had stuck with it. However, I honestly don't think we were ready as a team to make it happen -- we didn't really understand the market (two kids right of college who never used calendars!). We spent a lot of time trying to come up with ideas for how to make Kiko work (one of those brainstorming sessions led to Justin.tv), but just couldn't think of anything we should was compelling.


we didn't really understand the market

Quote from your article:

"These were guys with very little knowledge of the tech industry, two designers who had a programmer working with them part time.

....

Even their lead (and only) engineer had moved back to Boston. As a casual observer from the outside, they appeared isolated and discouraged.

....

But they didn’t give up. They kept at it."

Like you said, persistence isn’t just key — it is everything.

I honestly feel that if you have determination, you can make any idea work and make it big. But it helps if you are having fun while doing it.


In an interview with Bloomberg, PG mentions Kiko. Apparently when Google calendar came out Kiko lost about half it's users. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2664467


And that's exactly the kind of thing Justin argues is just another excuse to give up. I have this heresy that one of the most common reasons for startup failure is founder boredom, but few founders ever admit it.


heresy != heresay ;)


No, I do mean heresy, as in an uncommon belief. And what you think I meant is spelt hearsay, not heresay.


"I have this heresy" was your original statment which does not parse.

Heresay is, as I understand it, the correct spelling (at least in a legal sense).


I can't find the meaning of heresay. Maybe my grammatical usage of heresy in the sentence is incorrect, but I do mean it in this way - http://www.thefreedictionary.com/heresy

(Sorry, my initial Google search automatically replaced "heresay" with "hearsay" in my search. I hate that Google has started doing this, instead of the old "did you mean x?")




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