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It feels like a corollary of memetic assholery in online communities. Essentially the R0 [0] of being a dick.

If I have a community, bombarded by a random number of transient bad actors at random times, then if R0 > some threshold, my community inevitably trends to a cesspool, as each bad actor creates more negative members.

If I take steps to decrease R0, one of which may indeed be "blunt- and harshness to new contributors", then my community may survive in the face of equivalent pressures.

It's a valid point, and seems to have historical support via evidence of many egalitarian / welcoming communities collapsing due to the accumulation of bad faith participants.

The key distinction is probably "Are you being blunt / harsh in the service of the primary goal, or ancillary to the mission?"

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number




> It's a valid point, and seems to have historical support via evidence of many egalitarian / welcoming communities collapsing due to the accumulation of bad faith participants.

Could you provide references to some of this historical support?


Kinda a silly example, but several subreddits that started out with the aim of making fun of some subject (i.e. r/prequelmemes and the Star Wars prequels, or r/the_donald and then Presidential candidate Donald Trump) were quickly turned into communities earnestly supporting the initial subject of parody.


I think Reddit is the broadest example, because it's evidence of both outcomes due to the diversity in moderation policy between subs.

Some can tolerate a steady influx of bad actors: some fall apart. There's probably a valid paper in there somewhere.


I don't think this is silly at all. And the fact that reddit's admins occasionally have to step in with a forceful hand over what the mods do only speaks louder to GP's point.




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