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So it’s OK that someone died, because your political framework is aligned with some ethereal goal of CHOP. Based on the definitions stated in this thread, you support terrorism.



It's possible to support CHOP's intentions as non-terroristic and also think that the deaths are not OK. I personally don't support CHOP but I think the deaths were caused more by negligence than malice: they didn't intend for violence and death, but they eventually lost control of their cop-free paradise. Some would argue that was inevitable and that's what made the whole thing a stupid idea in the first place.

CHOP started as a bunch of protestors who saw the police make the terrible strategic decision to withdraw from their own precinct building and said "hey, let's declare that this area is self-governing to make a political statement about how police presence isn't improving things." And it initially really was peaceful enough to walk your kids through to look at all the hippie positivity. The chaos and violence came about after the "autonomy" went on way too long and opportunists (anarchists and wannabe vigilantes) moved in.

Everything would have worked out a lot better if the CHOP folks yelled "you're retreating? This is our neighborhood now! Rah, rah, rah!" and then a day or two later the cops said "very funny, you made your point, but we are coming back and you better get the fuck out of the way or get your heads beaten in" and that was the end of it.


It is NOT OK that someone died. However people die all the time in American cities because of gun violence. With your logic schools are bad actually because people die in them, so are cities, jails, etc. I’m not saying it is a good thing, I’m saying it happens.




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