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> But I've not seen any violence toward other people.

Goodness, then you haven't been looking very hard. Perhaps you haven't seen this? https://youtu.be/cJOgGsC0G9U?t=1224

The NYTimes also ran this story today: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/pelosi-threat-Clevelan...

> Is that some kind of sick joke? Al Qaeda burns people to death in metal cages.

Hate groups in the US have a long history of committing heinous murders and lynchings. Here's one such example which seems on par with your description of burnings in metal cages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Jesse_Washington

I don't doubt that there are members of hate groups in the US today that would commit such acts and that many of them are among Trump's most avid supporters; probably even among those that broke into the Capitol Wednesday. Let's please not pretend like that kind of violence isn't possible in Trump's America.

Let's also not forget Trump's own personal legacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump#1927_arrest




Look, what they did at the capitol was abhorrent.

> Perhaps you haven't seen this?

You have got to be kidding me - some people shoving riot police is comparable to burning people alive in metal cages? The people in the front are not even hitting the police, they are just pushing.

> Hate groups in the US

Why are we switching to other groups suddenly?

> I don't doubt

So basically you are making up imaginary things, then assuming people will do them?

> Trump's own personal legacy

A story about his father is somehow relevant?

Look, I will say it again, what they did at the capitol was abhorrent. But your comparison with Al Qaeda is indescribably worse. I'm utterly stunned to be having this conversation with you - it's like I'm living in some kind of alternate reality world.

Aee you serious? Do you have even the remotest idea just how disgusting your comparison is?


Well, based on the tone of this reply I really doubt there's much more to be gained by continuing this thread. But I'll leave you with a few parting thoughts anyway...

> You have got to be kidding me - some people shoving riot police is comparable to burning people alive in metal cages?

I didn't make that comparison and I don't think most people would have interpreted my remarks as having done that. You're putting words in my mouth. You made this statement in your previous post:

"The Trump riot was basically people taking stupid selfies. They were very violent to the building. But I've not seen any violence toward other people."

The linked video of rioters shoving police was intended to show you that it was terribly wrong and somewhat careless to think that what happened was the same as "taking stupid selfies."

> Why are we switching to other groups suddenly?

My point was that it's reasonable to say that these are not "other groups." It's already been shown I think pretty widely by many reputable news organizations that some of Trump's most ardent supporters are members of hard core white supremacist groups. The link to the article about Jesse Washington's lynching was intended to show you that it's also reasonable to think that such groups are capable of violence that is on the same level as burning people in metal cages. That kind of violence exists in the US's own history of hate motivated crimes. The rioters that broke into capitol had erected a make shift gallows outside of the building. They were also heard chanting and saying things like "Hang Mike Pence" and "Heads on a Pike." Just let that sink in for a bit. What do you think would have happened if, say, they had run across AOC in the hallways given that she's been consistently demonized for the past two years? They were carrying signs saying "Nancy Pelosi is Satan." What would have happened if they had found her? Why is anyone still giving these people the benefit of the doubt?

> A story about his father is somehow relevant?

Yes, because it appears that Trump's father may have been a member of the KKK.

> Look, I will say it again, what they did at the capitol was abhorrent. But your comparison with Al Qaeda is indescribably worse.

Worse than what? The attack on the capitol? If that's what you meant, that's not a very serious comment.

> I'm utterly stunned to be having this conversation with you - it's like I'm living in some kind of alternate reality world. Aee you serious? Do you have even the remotest idea just how disgusting your comparison is?

Yes, I'm quite serious. Don't think that throwing insults at me is going to change my mind.

With all that being said, I think this conversation has outgrown its usefulness and I won't be making any further replies.




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