Confetti in Messages? Branded guides in Maps? This is for a .. (checks notes) “OS upgrade”? I guess updating Misson Control is good but other than that (and the M1 chip itself of course which seems quite impressive) who really gets excited about stuff like this?
No thanks. Don’t want it, don’t need it. Given all the pain that was involved with Catalina I’m holding off for a bit.
This is for consumers. Average consumers. The people that Apple is targeting. Not the L337 haxxors posturing on HN.
Don’t want it, don’t need it.
No problem. Don't upgrade. I have a computer still running Snow Leopard. Apple doesn't come to your house and force you to install its newest operating system at gunpoint.
Given all the pain that was involved with Catalina I’m holding off for a bit.
For me, the Catalina upgrade was flawless, even on a 2012 Air.
Honestly, you’re right, but why should your good experience outweigh my bad one? I want a good developer experience is all. I’ve almost 100% switched back to Windows at this point and will never bother developing on a Mac again if I can help it.
EDIT: And to your point about not being forced to upgrade — that’s true, nobody’s forcing anybody to do anything. But you can’t just stay on Snow Leopard forever either ...
why should your good experience outweigh my bad one?
I never said it did. I think your anecdote and my anecdote cancel each other out. But in a larger view of things, are both irrelevant to the conversation.
I’ve almost 100% switched back to Windows at this point and will never bother developing on a Mac again if I can help it.
So why are you even bothering to comment?
But you can’t just stay on Snow Leopard forever either
I can if it's the highest version of the operating system that particular machine can handle.
I’m “bothering to comment” because I used to love using Macs and I’m disappointed at the sluggish pace of improvement or even regressions we’ve seen since Catalina.
For context, I switched from Linux somewhere back around Tiger and at that time it was like a breath of fresh air — all the benefits of a Linux machine without the stuffy hardware tweaks. But lately it’s been a struggle. I’ve asked myself, why am I still using this OS, which is basically just a pretty skin on top of a bunch of stuff (Mail, Mission Control, Messages ...) that I barely use? The dev experience keeps getting worse, I can’t run 32 bit apps anymore (goodbye, SNESx), system stability after upgrades is not as rock-solid it once was, and meanwhile they keep adding stuff I don’t need or want.
There was a thread here the other day about the lack of documentation for SwiftUI that resonated with me along the same lines. Why bother buying this hardware and developing on/for it, if the company is just moving further away from the stuff I like to use?
I am in a similar boat. I’m not so worried about them dropping legacy support for things, and I’m also fairly positive about where they are going with Swift etc, but it does feel like the benefits for professional use are narrow.
Having said that, I have moved back to Linux for some things recently, and it feels like time has simply stood still or regressed.
No thanks. Don’t want it, don’t need it. Given all the pain that was involved with Catalina I’m holding off for a bit.